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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1790564>今天4套今日关注说的是中巴联合训练的专题,开头的短片中有一架飞机一闪而过,感觉和飞豹和11都不同,大三角形的样子,不知道是不是我的错觉。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1790575>非常好的专业科普文,这样的技术型八股文值得欢迎!<BR>==============================================<BR>我国有多型高温钛合金用于制造航空发动机<BR><A href="http://www.sina.com.cn/" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://www.sina.com.cn</FONT></A>&nbsp;&nbsp;2010年07月09日 10:43&nbsp;&nbsp;中国航空报<BR>北京航空材料研究院简介<BR><BR>  中航工业北京航空材料研究院(以下简称航材院)建于1956年,是从事航空先进材料应用基础研究、材料研制与应用技术研究和工程化研究的综合性国家科研机构,是我国国防科技工业领域高水平材料研究发展中心,是国家科技创新体系和国防科技创新体系的重要组成部分。主要从事飞机、发动机和直升机用先进材料、工艺、检测评价技术研究,具有高性能材料的小批量生产和高难度重要部件的研制与开发能力。<BR><BR>  航材院拥有10个材料、热工艺研究室(包括先进复合材料和先进高温结构材料2个国防科技重点实验室,航空工业第一个国家工程实验室——结构性碳纤维复合材料国家工程实验室),1个航空材料检测研究中心,1个生产中心,以及百慕高科、百慕新材、百慕合金、百慕进出口、百慕合力等5个主要控股子公司,是国防科技工业精密铸造技术研究应用中心的技术依托单位,中航工业航空材料及热工艺技术发展中心的理事长单位。航材院坚持军民结合,致力于发展高新技术产业,已开发出的700余种高新技术产品,在航空、航天、机械、电子、船舶、铁路、汽车、轻工、化工、建材、石油及生物医学工程等领域得到广泛应用,培育了一批在国内外有重要影响的产业化项目,主要包括钛合金精密铸造生产基地,粘接磁性材料合金锭生产基地,航空用预浸料、蜂窝研究生产基地,宇航用特种橡胶与密封材料研究生产基地等,取得了显著效益。在发展历程中,航材院与全俄航空材料研究院、美国GE公司、SNECMA公司、德宇航等全球近50个国家和地区的大型研究机构及跨国公司建立了良好的科技与经贸合作关系。<BR><BR>  航材院积极吸纳现代先进管理方法,在中国率先通过ISO9001:2000质量管理体系认证,并获得中国实验室国家认可委员会(CNAL)颁发的实验室认可证书,通过了AS9100宇航质量管理体系认证和Nadcap认证。航材院全力推行综合平衡计分卡、精益6σ、6S管理,经营管理水平不断提高。<BR><BR>  航材院现有职工2000余名,其中中科院院士2名,工程院院士1 名,国家级有突出贡献专家6名,享受政府特殊津贴专家89名,博士生导师14名,中航工业首席技术专家4名,研究员及高级工程师370余名,博士114余名,硕士近400名,设有研究生部和博士后流动站,具有多学科硕士、博士学位授予权。<BR><BR>  自飞机诞生来,航空领域从来就是先进材料技术展现风采、争奇斗艳的大舞台。1903年莱特兄弟驾驶的第一架飞机是用木头和布做成的,但是,随着飞机需要承受的载荷越来越重,环境越来越严苛,金属材料开始成为机体航空材料的主流。典型的就是铝合金的使用,直到现在,铝合金仍然是民用航空器的主要材料。随着工业技术的快速进步,钛合金、复合材料越来越多地应用在航空飞行器上,从军用飞机到民用飞机,从小型直升机到大型固定翼飞机,从小零件到主结构部件无一例外。钛合金、复合材料俨然已经成为先进飞机的代名词。<BR><BR>  材料与飞机在相互推动下不断发展,航空材料一直发挥着先导和基础作用。按照使用部位的不同,航空材料可分为机体材料和发动机材料。在现代材料科学与技术的发展历程中,机体材料不仅引领飞行器自身的发展,而且还带动了地面交通工具以及空间飞行器的进步。而发动机材料的发展则不断促进动力产业和能源行业的推陈出新。<BR><BR>  “一代材料,一代飞机”是航空工业发展的生动写照。机体材料至今已经历了四个发展阶段,正在跨入第五阶段。第一阶段是从1903年到1919年,机体采用木、布结构;第二阶段是1920年到1949年,产生了铝合金和钢的机身材料;第三个阶段是从 1956年到1969年,飞机材料中增加了钛;第四个阶段是1970年至今,其特点是增加了复合材料。<BR><BR>  2006年2月9日,国务院发布了《国家中长期科学和技术发展规划纲要(2006—2020年)》,其第四章里确定了大型飞机等16个国家级重大专项。大飞机专项的关键技术包括发动机、材料和电子设备等三项,而事实上,发动机和电子设备的发展基础依然是材料,即高温合金材料和电子、微电子材料等,再次凸显航空材料在飞机、发动机发展中的关键作用。本文将以现代飞机和发动机中最重要的高温合金、铝合金、钛合金、超高强度钢、复合材料等5大类结构材料为例,浅谈这些材料的发展历程(代别)及其对航空装备的推动和支撑作用。<BR><BR>  高温合金<BR><BR>  高温合金是为了满足喷气发动机对材料的苛刻要求而研制的,至今已成为军用和民用燃气涡轮发动机热端部件不可替代的一类关键材料。目前,在先进的航空发动机中,高温合金用量所占比例已高达50%以上。<BR><BR>  高温合金的发展与航空发动机的技术进步密切相关,尤其是发动机热端部件涡轮盘、涡轮叶片材料和制造工艺是发动机发展的重要标志。由于对材料的耐高温性能和应力承受能力提出很高要求,早期英国研制了Ni3(Al、Ti)强化的Nimonic80合金,用作涡轮喷气发动机涡轮叶片材料,同时,又相继发展了 Nimonic系列合金。美国开发了含铝、钛的弥散强化型镍基合金,如普惠公司、GE公司和特殊金属公司分别开发出的Inconel、Mar-M和 Udmit等合金系列。<BR><BR>  在高温合金发展过程中,制造工艺对合金的发展起着极大的推进作用。由于真空熔炼技术的出现,合金中有害杂质和气体的去除,特别是合金成分的精确控制,使高温合金性能不断提高。随后,定向凝固、单晶生长、粉末冶金、机械合金化、陶瓷型芯、陶瓷过滤、等温锻造等新型工艺的研究成功,推动了高温合金的迅猛发展。其中定向凝固技术最为突出,采用定向凝固工艺制出的定向、单晶合金,其使用温度接近初熔点的90%。因此,目前各国先进航空发动机叶片都采用定向、单晶合金制造涡轮叶片。从国际范围来看,镍基铸造高温合金已形成等轴晶、定向凝固柱晶和单晶合金体系。粉末高温合金也由第一代650℃发展到750℃、850℃粉末涡轮盘和双性能粉末盘,用于先进高性能发动机。<BR><BR>  我国高温合金随航空发动机的发展研制和生产需求而发展。我国高温合金的创业和起步于20世纪70年代前,由于我国第一、二代发动机的需求,我国研制和发展了GH系列的变形高温合金以及K 系列的铸造高温合金,同时发展了许多新的制造技术,如真空熔炼和铸造、空心叶片铸造、等温锻造等。<BR><BR>  70年代后,在高温合金的研制中,我国引进了欧美技术,按国外的技术标准进行研制和生产,对材料的纯洁度和综合性能提出了更高要求,研制了高性能变形高温合金、铸造高温合金。尤其是 DZ系列的定向凝固柱晶合金和DD系列的单晶合金的研究与发展,使我国高温合金在生产工艺技术和产品质量控制上了一个新台阶。<BR><BR>  近几年来,根据新型飞机的研制发展需求,我国高温合金研发又进入新阶段。通过新材料、新工艺的发展和应用,我国研制和生产了一系列高性能新合金。<BR><BR>  铝合金<BR><BR>  铝合金的比强度和比刚度与钢相似,但由于其密度较低,在同样的强度水平下可提供截面更厚的材料,在受压时的抗屈曲能力更佳,因此铝合金成了经典的飞机结构材料。<BR><BR>  欧美国家航空铝合金的发展已经历了第一代静强度铝合金、第二代耐腐蚀铝合金和第三代高纯铝合金。<BR><BR>  20世纪80年代末至90 年代中期,精密热处理技术及合金成分精确控制等关键技术取得突破,第四代耐损伤铝合金2524-T3和7150-T77研制成功,这是航空铝合金研究跨时代的进步。传统铝合金因此完成了向高性能铝合金的里程碑式大发展。<BR><BR>  在第四代铝合金技术发展的同时,铝锂合金也被运用在先进的特大型民用飞机上。空客A380选用铝锂合金制造地板梁,空客A350选用铝锂合金制造机身蒙皮和地板结构等,其用量预计高达总结构重量的23%。<BR><BR>  第四代铝合金技术研制成功之后,国际上正在进行低成本铝合金的研制开发工作。2003年美铝公司提出了“20-20计划”:20年内使飞机的制造成本降低20%,同时实现减重20%。<BR><BR>  国内航空铝合金的发展已走过几个发展阶段。总的来说,我国铝合金的研制主要瞄准国际先进水平,但关键技术的突破以及品种、规格的系列化发展和工程应用水平距离国外还有较大差距,亟待建立第三、四代铝合金的完善材料体系。<BR><BR>  钛合金<BR><BR>  铝合金所能承受的温度载荷有限,20世纪70年代,航空材料进入钛合金时代。由于钛合金成形及切削加工非常困难、与某些化学品接触时性能会发生变化等特点,各飞机制造公司为钛合金材料的研制付出巨大努力。<BR><BR>  1.飞机结构钛合金材料<BR><BR>  钛合金具有比强度高、耐腐蚀性好和耐高温等一系列优点,能够进行各种方式的零件成形、焊接和机械加工,因而在先进飞机及发动机上获得了广泛应用。当今,钛合金用量占飞机结构重量的百分比已成为衡量飞机用材先进程度的重要标志之一。钛合金占F-22战斗机机体结构重量的39%。钛合金在国外民用飞机上的用量也随飞机设计和性能水平的提高而不断增加。<BR><BR>  高损伤容限性能是新一代战斗机(包括高推比发动机)长寿命、高机动性、低成本和损伤容限设计需要的重要材料性能指标。美国率先把破损安全设计概念和损伤容限设计准则成功应用在先进战斗机上,F-22战斗机大量采用损伤容限型钛合金及其大型整体构件,以满足高减重和长寿命的设计需求。<BR><BR>  Ti-6Al-4V ELI在美国C-17军用运输机上的特大型锻件上得到重要应用,高强度钛合金Ti-6-22-22S也在C-17飞机上的水平尾翼接头(转轴)等关键部位上得到应用。这两种钛合金的使用,使大型运输机的寿命高达60000 飞行小时以上。在欧洲,空客A380是首架全钛挂架的飞机,未来的A350也将采用全钛挂架。<BR><BR>  2.航空发动机用高温钛合金<BR><BR>  高温钛合金主要用于制造航空发动机压气机叶片、盘和机匣等零件,这些零件要求材料在高温工作条件下(300~600℃)具有较高的比强度、高温蠕变抗力、疲劳强度、持久强度和组织稳定性。随着航空发动机推重比的提高,高压压气机出口温度升高导致高温钛合金叶片和盘的工作温度不断升高。经过几十年的发展,固溶强化型的高温钛合金最高工作温度由350℃提高到了600℃。<BR><BR>  我国在航空发动机上使用的工作温度在400℃以下的高温钛合金主要有 TC4和TC6,应用于发动机工作温度较低的风扇叶片和压气机第1、2级叶片。500℃左右工作的高温钛合金有TC11、TA15和TA7合金,其中 TC11是我国目前航空发动机上用量最大的钛合金。<BR><BR>  单纯采用固溶强化的钛合金难以满足600℃以上温度环境对蠕变抗力和强度的要求。有序强化的钛-铝系金属间化合物因其高比强度、比刚度、高蠕变抗力、优异的抗氧化和阻燃性能,而成为600℃以上温度非常有使用潜力的候选材料,其中 Ti3Al基合金长期工作温度在650℃左右,而TiAl基合金工作温度可达760℃~800℃。<BR><BR>  超高强度钢<BR><BR>  超高强度钢作为起落架材料应用在飞机上。第二代飞机采用的起落架材料是30CrMnSiNi2A钢,抗拉强度为1700MPa,这种起落架的寿命较短,约2000飞行小时。<BR><BR>  第三代战机设计要起落架求寿命超过5000飞行小时,同时由于机载设备增多,飞机结构重量系数下降,对起落架选材和制造技术提出更高要求。美国和我国的第三代战机均采用300M钢(抗拉强度1950MPa)起落架制造技术。<BR><BR>  应该指出的是,材料应用技术水平的提高也在推动起落架寿命的进一步延长和适应性的扩大。如空客A380飞机起落架采用了超大型整体锻件锻造技术、新型气氛保护热处理技术和高速火焰喷涂技术,使得起落架寿命满足设计要求。由此,新材料和制造技术的进步确保了飞机的更新换代。<BR><BR>  飞机在耐腐蚀环境中的长寿命设计对材料提出了更高要求,AerMet100钢较300M钢而言,强度级别相当,而耐一般腐蚀性能和耐应力腐蚀性能明显优于300M钢,与之相配套的起落架制造技术已应用于F/A-18E/F、F-22、F-35等先进飞机上。更高强度的Aermet310钢断裂韧性较低,正在研究中。损伤容限超高强度钢AF1410的裂纹扩展速率极慢,用作B-1飞机机翼作动筒接头,比Ti-6Al-4V减重10.6%,加工性能提高60%,成本降低 30.3%。俄罗斯米格-1.42上高强度不锈钢用量高达30%。PH13-8Mo是唯一的高强度马氏体沉淀硬化不锈钢,广泛用作耐蚀构件。国内探索超高强度不锈钢取得初步效果。<BR><BR>  国外还发展了超高强度齿轮(轴承)钢,如CSS-42L、GearmetC69等,并在发动机、直升机和宇航中试用。国内发动机、直升机传动材料技术十分落后,北京航空材料研究院已自主研究开发了一种超高强度轴承齿轮钢。<BR><BR>  复合材料<BR><BR>  在飞机、发动机结构材料家族中,复合材料是一位新成员。材料科学的发展造就了高强度、高模量、低比重的碳纤维,从而掀开了先进复合材料时代的序幕。日本于 1959年首先发明了聚丙烯腈(PAN)基碳纤维,并于20世纪60年代初将其投入工业化生产;70年代中期以碳纤维为增强相的先进复合材料诞生。航空用的复合材料种类不少,其中的绝对主力就是树脂基碳纤维复合材料。因为碳纤维是目前已知的比强度、比刚度最好的材料。它比铝还要轻,比钢还要硬,其比重是铁的四分之一,比强度是铁的十倍;而且化学组成非常稳定,还具有高抗腐蚀性,适用于航空和航天飞行器。<BR><BR>  碳纤维增强复合材料通常以环氧树脂基复合材料为代表。对航空结构而言,这种复合材料的压缩强度(Compression Strength)和韧性(冲击后压缩强度,简称 CAI/Compression After Impact strength)已成为代别的主要指标,目前已发展到第三代,并已广泛进入军民机产品。<BR><BR>  在航空复合材料应用的进程中,军机、民机、直升机、无人机各自走过相似的发展道路。军机上复合材料的应用大致可分为三个阶段。<BR><BR>  第一阶段,复合材料主要用于舱门、口盖、整流罩以及襟副翼、方向舵等操纵面上,受力较小,制件尺寸较小,大约于20世纪70年代初即已实现;<BR><BR>  第二阶段,复合材料开始应用于垂尾、平尾等受力较大、尺寸较大的尾翼级部件,其中,美国F-14战斗机在1971年把硼纤维增强的环氧树脂复合材料成功应用在平尾上,被称为复合材料史上的一个里程碑。自20世纪70年代初至今,国外军机尾翼级的部件均已用复合材料制造。<BR><BR>  第三阶段,复合材料进入机翼、机身等受力大、尺寸大的主要承力结构中。其中,美国原麦道飞机公司于1976年率先研制了F/A-18的复合材料机翼,把复合材料的用量提高到了13%,成为复合材料史上的又一个重要里程碑。此后,国外军机群起仿效,几乎都采用了复合材料机翼。目前世界军机上复合材料用量约占全机结构重量的 20%~50%不等。<BR><BR>  民机既强调安全性也强调经济性,同样对结构减重有迫切需求。以美国为例,复合材料在大型民机上的应用,大致走过了四个阶段,体现了循序渐进的原则。<BR><BR>  第一阶段,复合材料主要应用在受力很小的前缘、口盖、整流罩、扰流板等构件,该阶段于上世纪70年代中期实现。<BR><BR>  第二阶段,受力较小的部件如升降舵、方向舵、襟副翼等开始应用复合材料制造,该阶段约于80年代中期结束。我国ARJ21新支线飞机的复合材料技术水平大致在这个阶段。<BR><BR>  第三阶段,复合材料应用在受力较大的部件,主要是垂尾、平尾等,如波音公司B777的复合材料垂尾、平尾。波音777共用复合材料9.9吨,占结构总重的11%。<BR><BR>  第四阶段,复合材料应用于飞机最主要受力部件机翼、机身等,如波音公司的B787“梦想”飞机,代表了飞机结构复合材料化的发展趋势。波音787飞机共使用复合材料50%,超过了铝、钛、钢金属材料的总和,主要应用在机翼、机身、垂尾、平尾、机身地板梁、后承压框等部位,是第一个采用复合材料机翼和机身的大型商用客机。<BR><BR>  直升机包括军用、民用和轻型直升机三类,先进复合材料在各种直升机上的用量均很大。如V-22可垂直起落,倾转旋翼后又能高速巡航,该机结构的50%由复合材料制成,包括机身、机翼、尾翼、旋转机构等,共用复合材料3000多千克。美国武装直升机“科曼奇”(RAH- 66)共使用复合材料50%,欧洲最新的“虎”式武装直升机复合材料用量高达80%,接近全复合材料结构。我国与法国、新加坡合作研制的轻型直升机 EC120的机身、垂尾、水平安定面、尾翼、前舱等结构均由复合材料制成。<BR><BR>  无人机包括无人作战机、无人侦察机和各种小型、微型、超微型无人机。军用无人机具有的低成本、轻结构、高机动、大过载、高隐身、长航程的技术特点,决定了其对减重的迫切需求,因此复合材料用量都很大,鲜明地体现了飞机结构复合材料化的趋势。美国波音公司X-45系列飞机复合材料用量达90%以上,诺斯罗普·格鲁门公司的X-47系列飞机基本上为全复合材料飞机。<BR><BR>  航空发动机应用复合材料可以大幅度提高其推重比,因此先进复合材料已成为未来发动机关键材料之一。发动机除使用树脂基复合材料外,因温度要求的关系,还会用到金属基、陶瓷基、碳/碳等复合材料。<BR><BR>  结语<BR><BR>  如引言所述,飞机材料的发展已经进入第五阶段,总趋势是复合材料和钛合金的用量不断增多,创历史新高。美国C-17大型军用运输机的钛用量占全机材料重量的 10.3%(钛零件总重6.8吨),复合材料用量达8.1%;空客A380的复合材料用量22%,钛合金用量10%;波音787复合材料用量50%,钛用量15%;空客A350的复合材料用量52%,钛合金用量9%。航空材料品种虽然没有发生大变化,但材料的性能、品质,特别是与前几阶段在飞机上的应用比例相比,却发生了极大的变化。在这些数据的背后,更多的是材料科学技术的跨越式发展和创新与进步。<BR><BR>  我国航空材料工业从跟踪仿制开始,已经走过了50年的发展历程,经历了好几个发展阶段和材料代别,但相对于国际航空材料技术的先进水平,我国航空材料技术还有相当大的差距。为此,国家提出“探索一代、预研一代、研制一代、生产一代”的划代发展思想,航空材料科学技术作为这“四个一代”发展的技术引领者和技术推动者,应该更加强化创新,超前部署,厚积薄发。中航工业北京航空材料研究院是国内唯一面向航空,从事航空先进材料应用基础研究、材料研制与应用技术研究和工程化研究的综合性科研机构,志在“引领航空材料技术,打造高新材料产业”,成为航空材料的“领跑者”。可以相信,随着国民经济的进一步发展,我国航空材料科学技术一定会迎来一个蓬勃发展的春天。<BR><BR>  (作者系中国航空工业集团公司北京航空材料研究院院长,研究员)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1792441>发表于 2010-7-10 03:55 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1792441><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1790575&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2309#</FONT></A> <I>布衣青裳</I> </STRONG><BR><BR>布衣前辈多介绍下我国新材料的情况哦</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1792790>汗,别这么称俺,俺实在愧不敢当,俺翻《国际航空》等等稍专业一点的材料报道内容,那实在只能是眼晕+发呆,就知道这实在太TM先进与高深了。<BR>一种先进材料的诞生,得从原子上给与理论阐述,得靠千万次的选型试验,已经无数的精密设备.加工工艺来确保,金钱,时间,基础研究等等,都是成功的基本要素,甚至还得加上“运气”!<BR>————材料也是国际上最难以仿制的东西,材料的进展也是各国核心保密内容之一......</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>前段时间歼6退出现役的时候,我就想着,什么时候歼7也能全部退役呢?从刀大的话来看,这个时间应 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>brotherfeng 发表于 2010-7-7 01:01 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1782601&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9767516903743347 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>这句话到让我想起了去年的BD,似乎他也曾经谈到过这些私货。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1793263>飞扬上有10B的雷达爆料,刀口了解的话也来说说吧<BR><BR><A href="http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1007/263572.html" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1007/263572.html</FONT></A><BR>J10B的雷达-<BR>J10B的雷达,目前确定下来的是:只装AESE,<BR><BR>以前制约我国AESE的难题是TR器件的废品率太高,在空警2000阶段我国突破了TR器件良品率难关,后来空警200的大量制造,不但TR器件良品率、效率和寿命都得到了近一步提高,而且TR器件的成本也下降了。<BR>我国新产的军舰,也开始装备3坐标主动相扫雷达,也说明我国AESE雷达技术已相当成熟。<BR>我国AESE的算法技术,软件水平是相当先进的。<BR><BR>即将配备于j10b的AESE雷达,只能说相当先进。<BR>其余的不可告知。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1793284>爆啥料呀,我国机载相控阵雷达都出来N年的“旧闻”了,好象是在刀版那《打航母》帖里吧?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>飞扬上有10B的雷达爆料,刀口了解的话也来说说吧<BR><BR>J10B的雷达-<BR>J10B的雷达,目前确定下来的是:只装AE ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>左边的门牙 发表于 2010-7-11 12:30 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1793263&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6934386322093194 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>我是在CD上看到的,难道是同一个人发的?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1793614>发表于 2010-7-11 05:05 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1793614><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 marx 于 2010-7-11 05:13 AM 编辑 </I><BR>问一个一直很想问的问题。。<BR>4代机会是完全脱离仿制和国外零件的战机么?例如发动机用自己的,不用俄罗斯的。。 至少样子不像什么T-50或者F-22的<BR>J15出来了,军迷是很兴奋,但是看看国外论坛,俄罗斯人冷冷的说是仿SU33,其他人不懂得也瞎附和,我看了很是不爽啊!毕竟外表像啊!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1794458>发表于 2010-7-11 09:47 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1794458><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1793614&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2321#</FONT></A> <I>marx</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 现在听老大们说气动很变态~~~超过美德和毛的~~~~还是非常规~~~~~这样我们也没有模仿对象啊&nbsp; &nbsp; ~~~~~出来看他们怎么说</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1794495><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1794458&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2323#</FONT></A> <I>baiyu2000</I> </STRONG><BR>要是真的就好啊,我严重期待啊! 我很想在老外面前牛B一把的<BR>就网上那些图,很多都好像是其他飞机改装版一样,例如高山整的类似mig1.44的气动,还有那种类似F22菱形机头的,要不就是J10双发威力加强版的。说实话,看后我很慌。。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1794813>真图还没人能看到那~~~~~但几位了解的大大们~~~~异口同声这样说的~~~~~气动是最好的~~~~非常规~~~~基本定了~~~~希望明年网上能看到图~~~~今年首飞我们也看不到图·~~~~说不定国庆</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1796358>平大屎说, 中国不可能获得 T50&nbsp; &nbsp;<BR><IMG alt="" src="http://image163.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100712/07/5374243420100712075152078.jpg"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1796500>发表于 2010-7-12 09:17 AM</EM> | </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>平大屎说, 中国不可能获得 T50<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>正义自有力量 发表于 2010-7-12 07:55 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1796358&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.7077593258032471 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>是中国不要T50不是俄罗斯不给T50,这里面文章就大了。<BR>说实在的,是中国多年的预研成果不愿意与俄罗斯共享。<BR>现在俄罗斯某些方面特别是技术上已经显露疲态和踏步不前,从财力物力人力我们不愁,如果合作现有的技术有的我们不输俄罗斯,今后在新技术提高上还要与俄罗斯共享,而我们要的俄罗斯又不给,这就没有合作的必要了。<BR>另外,在低端战斗机方面俄罗斯的人工优势早就没有了,总的成本肯定高过我们,而性能差不多。别说俄罗斯,即便是美国在低端战斗机上也无能为力,我们争这个市场当仁不让。毛子的大言不惭说明他们心虚。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1796502>说到低端战斗机,刚看到的一则新闻。<BR>------------<BR>中国空军二代歼击机群演练远海超低空飞行<BR>来源:解放军报 作者:李国文 赵凌宇 2010年07月12日07:37 <BR><BR>  南粤某滨海机场,空军航空兵由多个机型组成的第二代歼击机群升空,以战斗队形分批超低空掠海飞行,直扑远海目标。图为国庆阅兵中唯一一个二代歼击机梯队,歼-8F梯队。谭超 摄<BR><BR>  本报讯 盛夏的一天,南粤某滨海机场,空军航空兵由多个机型组成的第二代歼击机群升空,以战斗队形分批超低空掠海飞行,直扑远海目标,飞行高度之低、航程之远,直逼战机性能极限。<BR><BR>  飞行员们驾驶着6种不同机型的第二代歼击机,在阴云中编队出航,贴着浪尖,掠海低飞。战机编队很快飞出了雷达扫瞄范围,信号在显示屏上消失,但话筒中仍传出飞行员镇定自若的声音。据悉,针对第二代歼击机远海超低空飞行的需要,广空组织集训,研究破解指挥调配、公海飞行、通信救生等方面的10多个难题。飞行人员精心准备,密切协同,以防鸟撞、防错觉、防迷航、防坠海为重点,严密组织特情处置技术演练。保障人员针对操纵系统、航姿系统和无线电等易受气象、航程影响的实际,及时发现排除各类故障,确保参训飞机一次开车成功。经过43天的集训,空军航空兵达到了第二代歼击机超低空远海飞行训练的既定目标。<BR><A href="http://mil.news.sohu.com/20100712/n273433996.shtml" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://mil.news.sohu.com/20100712/n273433996.shtml</FONT></A><BR>------------<BR>老骥伏枥志在千里</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>是中国不要T50不是俄罗斯不给T50,这里面文章就大了。<BR>说实在的,是中国多年的预研成果不愿意与俄罗斯共 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-12 09:17 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1796500&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>那个普京视察T50的影片,普京看T50时, <STRONG>有个摇头的动作, 似乎有所不满</STRONG><BR>CCTV当晚的《今日关注》 还专门说了这事<BR>刀口兄, 有没有印象&nbsp; &nbsp;</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1797515>咱解毒一下普京看T50时摇头<BR>——据可靠接近普京身边的消息灵通人士透露,普京5次摇头:<BR>1.这TM啥部件玩意的太贵鸟<BR>2.这丫把咱当美国土老财整了<BR>3.这凯子赞助商就阿三一家,这样下去是不行滴!<BR>4.这半拉货啥时才整齐活?<BR>5.这要装备一个师得从咱腰包掏多少银子呀?还是苏联的玩意好哇!便宜又实惠...............</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1797598>WS15顺利按时间、按节点进行..............<BR>------------------------------------------<BR>中航工业副总经理李玉海到涡轮院考察<BR>7月8日,中航工业副总经理李玉海一行到中航工业涡轮院考察。涡轮院院长郭昕、党委书记李建榕向李玉海汇报了涡轮院近期科研工作的进展情况和院未来几年的发展战略。 <BR>李玉海一行先后前往<FONT color=red>涡轮院装配厂房、高空台</FONT>等处,实地了解并详细询问了涡轮院目前科研任务的进展完成情况以及<FONT color=red>新基地建设</FONT>等相关问题。<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 李玉海指出,涡轮院在遭受了特大地震后的两年多时间里,不仅没有被困难所吓倒,还持续保持了高速的增长和快速的发展,十分不易。目前,涡轮院的各项工作正有序地进行和开展,为保障院承担的各类试验任务按时间、按节点顺利的完成做出了较大的贡献。他要求,在后续的科研任务中,涡轮院全体干部职工一定要坚定信心、坚定目标,要有坚韧的意志和品质,要建立坚强的团队,精心的组织和管理,咬定目标不放松,用心地做好工作中的每一个细节,抓紧各项科研任务的研制进展。<BR><IMG alt="" src="http://www.hangkongnet.com/uploadfile/2010/0712/20100712043028390.jpg"><BR><IMG alt="" src="http://www.hangkongnet.com/uploadfile/2010/0712/20100712043029850.jpg"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1797605>补充资料——中国今年将完成一型航空发动机国家重大专项研制<BR>本报讯 近日,中航工业动力所召开九届三次职工代表大会暨2010年工作会,研究部署型号研制的重点任务及各项工作。面对今年研制任务重、技术难度大、重大节点多,发动机整机试车和零部件试验时数都将创历史新高以及试验需求与资源紧张的矛盾更加突出的严峻形势,所长刘廷毅强调:采取强有力措施,统筹资源、科学管理、全力以赴、不惜代价,全面完成今年国家重大专项等型号研制任务,确保重大研制节点的实现。<BR>  为保证2010年科研经营任务的完成,动力所要求各部门主要抓好6个方面的工作。一是全力以赴,坚决完成全年型号研制任务;二是夯实基础,持续提升研制能力;三是确保进度,全力加快研保条件建设;四是引援挖潜,倾力打造人才支撑平台;五是深化改革,着力提升管理创新能力;六是以人为本,不断推进和谐研究所建设。研究所当前研制任务重,要周密计划、统筹协调、合理调配、狠抓执行,做到“保内容”、“保质量”、“保节点”。“保内容”,就是设计和试验项目不折不扣,没有疏漏,确保设计分析和试验充分;“保质量”,就是要精益求精,避免反复,确保研制质量;“保节点”,就是要抓好组织管理,提高工作效率,严肃科研纪律,保证不拖进度。(李晶雪)<BR>资料图:国产太行涡扇发动机模型<BR> 1.jpg </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1798292><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1794495&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2324#</FONT></A> <I>marx</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sopc老大曾意淫过一张图,众人皆点头称赞,我存了下来。你想看就留下邮箱。不保证真实性哦。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;marx&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sopc老大曾意淫过一张图,众人皆点头称赞,我存了下来。你想看就留下邮箱。不保证真实 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>7145871 发表于 2010-7-13 03:52 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1798292&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9256767014933975 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>贴出来,让大家都能欣赏</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>那个普京视察T50的影片,普京看T50时, 有个摇头的动作, 似乎有所不满<BR>CCTV当晚的《今日关注》 还专门 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>正义自有力量 发表于 2010-7-12 09:34 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1796527&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9488971520000067 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>普京心里什么都明白。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ljdfw&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.7M,太大了,找不到合适的图床。再说,估计是YY图,太漂亮了不像PLA风格。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>7145871 发表于 2010-7-13 06:08 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1799648&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9738147313148169 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 图收到了,确切来说那个不是图,gif格式的动画<BR>就感觉身子太小了,比例有点怪,但是那种气动基本上就是潜龙的那个CG图,如果后面V型尾垂再往后一点,挡住发动机喷口就比较好看了~~</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1800225><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 marx 于 2010-7-14 01:37 AM 编辑 </I><BR>刀大。。 你要去132厂看真东西。。 想象图有啥好看的。。<BR>话说网天不能上传图啊。。 只能引用啊 就头像可以上传。。。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1800229>发表于 2010-7-14 01:28 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 7145871 于 2010-7-14 01:44 AM 编辑&nbsp;</I><BR> 未命名.jpg </P>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1801383>发表于 2010-7-14 03:10 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大都发话了,焉有不从之理?只是这张图恐怕相当多的人都看过了。原图来源于CD的sopc_dsp网友。考虑到目 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>7145871 发表于 2010-7-14 01:28 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1800229&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>J10鸭子+F23菊花+ F22上半身<BR>真邪恶啊<BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801414>那鸭子,那浅浅的深V形深沟<BR>翼身融合好像做的比F22还要好<BR>鸡头下半身看不清楚<BR><BR>太销魂了,太销魂了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1801463>发表于 2010-7-14 03:30 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801463><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 刀口 于 2010-7-14 03:31 PM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大都发话了,焉有不从之理?只是这张图恐怕相当多的人都看过了。原图来源于CD的sopc_dsp网友。考虑到目 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>7145871 发表于 2010-7-14 01:28 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1800229&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>谢谢!<BR>边条翼怎么让俄罗斯抢了先了?!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801488>三翼面布局有利于短距起落,鸭翼有利于格斗,采用三翼面的布局又设计成边条翼是一个不错的选择。<BR>边条翼在超巡时不作为,一旦进入高机动,边条翼开始起作用,兼顾速度和隐身及格斗,是个很好的布局。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801544>不过,这个外形是如此的销魂,对骨架的制造设备要求和全机的装配要求很高啊<BR>应该比F22的要求都高<BR>真TM的邪恶<BR>太梆梆了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801581>三个起落架很有意思<BR>轮胎也有意思<BR>似乎是重载J<BR>希望能海空通用</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801620>气动外形固然重要,但是,航电和发动机更重要。<BR>我们目前有隐身的无人机,这也是美国航母不敢来的原因之一。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大又开始憋尿了<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>小兔子乖乖 发表于 2010-7-14 04:07 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1801646&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.8915330769734306 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>兔子还是不信?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801701><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 高高高高高高 于 2010-7-14 04:29 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1801698&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2378#</FONT></A> <I>刀口</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 刀歌啊,什么时候能看到丝带的图啊,<BR>不知道刀哥看到没?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801704>刀大能对这个隐身无人机再多说两句么,当然规矩俺是懂的</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801740>刀大啊,就现代空战而言,在超视距打完后进入近战有几层几率啊? 鸭翼的用途只有用来格斗么?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>兔子还是不信?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-14 04:26 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1801698&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.4071067946318425 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>小兔子当然相信刀大的话的</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大都发话了,焉有不从之理?只是这张图恐怕相当多的人都看过了。原图来源于CD的sopc_dsp网友。考虑到目 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>7145871 发表于 2010-7-14 01:28 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1800229&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.43960084946357125 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>原来是个动画啊,建议大家下载来看</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1801973>发表于 2010-7-14 07:15 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>看来我们无人隐身机可载大射程反舰导弹!<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>qqsunfaye 发表于 2010-7-14 06:58 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1801952&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.8567872993566186 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>这倒未必!长航时隐身无人机的作用就是侦察和锁定目标,美国航母到黄海真是就是我们练手的机会。反正打掉我们也不心疼,一句迷航失控也就搪塞过去了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1801994>发表于 2010-7-14 07:50 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1801994>我们的无人隐身机应该也有攻击能力这方面的发展考虑吧,无人空战应该是超丝带的发展方向,毕竟比起飞行员的培养以及战斗机制造保养维护的成本来说,无人机更占优势,摔了也就摔了,没有人员伤亡就会有巨大的心理优势.试想在不久的将来,我们的大运像下饺子一样丢下一群无人隐身攻击机对目标发动攻击......甚至可以由丝带近距离突防后放出隐身无人机发动自杀性攻击,呵呵,乱说的,不对大家别见笑</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>试想在不久的将来,我们的大运像下饺子一样丢下一群无人隐身攻击机对目标发动攻击....<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>秦汉风 发表于 2010-7-14 07:50 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1801994&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.4301473236646409 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>神族航母。。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1802170><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1802166&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2399#</FONT></A> <I>阿仿</I> </STRONG><BR><BR>看老刀的回复是,技术特点上是八九不离十了。<BR>只不过,我看还是有保留,坛子里的大佬都指出了,外形非常科幻,这个CD的老图说实话还是没有跳脱我们的想象空间。<BR>希望到时有更大的惊喜。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>未来或者不久的空战肯定是隐身战斗机不断被破除隐身的空战,如果突出隐身,结果会悔的连肠子都青了,所谓 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-14 05:24 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1801804&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.16209114114340722 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>刀大说的对,F117不就是一个例子吗?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>玻璃窗小了点,窗户里的人,抬头也看不到下面,呵呵。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>阿仿 发表于 2010-7-14 09:27 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1802191&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6160005380861895 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 这个似乎可以从F35那个鸡头下面那个蓝宝石那里找到一个方法</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1807442>枭龙游英伦..........<BR> 1.jpg <BR> 2.jpg <BR> 3.jpg <BR> 4.jpg <BR> 5.jpg <BR> 6.jpg </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1807489>巴基斯坦是把枭龙拿去英国改装航电系统还是飞控系统吧?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;wolf-zhang<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-14 08:58 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1802129&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6283195196934671 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT color=blue><STRONG>布衣大,我们应该有比这有没更大的无人机</STRONG>?!</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>这倒未必!长航时隐身无人机的作用就是侦察和锁定目标,美国航母到黄海真是就是我们练手的机会。反正打掉 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-14 07:15 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1801973&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.5556169201694525 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>刀大,这个模拟器应该稍微高级点了吧<BR> 1.jpg </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>巴基斯坦是把枭龙拿去英国改装航电系统还是飞控系统吧?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>天地浮云 发表于 2010-7-16 08:26 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1807489&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.8276321559626326 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>应该不是吧,当年我国雷达已经赢了欧洲的了,原装的都是我国的雷达,其他航电也是<BR>以后巴基斯坦自产的还没定</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1807546><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-16 09:04 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>转:<BR><BR>&nbsp;描述:8G发射YJ91反辐射蛋<BR>图片:&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp; 1.jpg <BR> 2.jpg <BR>&nbsp; 3.jpg <BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>上次布衣兄发的H6和飞豹的吊舱很像,这次是一个不同的,据说是BMKZ900,咆哮8</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大,这个模拟器应该稍微高级点了吧<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-16 08:41 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1807528&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.567280957068315 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>感觉还是一般,“飞行员”连背带都不绑,不穿飞行服。所以座舱肯定“动”不起来。<BR>属于一般的练习,跟玩差不多。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>感觉还是一般,“飞行员”连背带都不绑,不穿飞行服。所以座舱肯定“动”不起来。<BR>属于一般的练习,跟 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-16 08:56 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1807549&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.2205740105056192 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>上次那个屏幕小了,这次至少屏要大点</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1807978><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1807489&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2416#</FONT></A> <I>天地浮云</I> </STRONG><BR><BR>巴基斯坦目前一水的中国货,枭龙航电系统是模块化的,多少钱多少货,东方西方都支持。<BR>“飞控系统”那可就别想了,设计试飞机构不会给,除非你从头再来走一遍。要整合那可以,只是给接口,那家飞机商都如此。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<P><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 布衣青裳 于 2010-7-17 12:01 AM 编辑 </I><BR><BR><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1807528&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2418#</FONT></A> <I>ggxxs</I> </STRONG><BR> 1.jpg </P>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1808029><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-17 12:36 AM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs <BR><BR>自卫干扰吊仓<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-17 12:02 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1807993&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9813396945344392 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> 1.jpg <BR>这个KG300G是自卫干扰吊仓,2430楼那个KZ900是空中战术电子侦察吊舱,2个都去过泰国防展<BR>巴基斯坦很想装到枭龙上面,还有蓝天吊舱和C70X、C80X系列导弹</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;正义自有力量&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 有没有携蛋的图片?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>wolf-zhang 发表于 2010-7-17 08:46 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1808192&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.16679306084439854 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>没有, 图片是转飞扬的 <BR><STRONG>&nbsp; &nbsp; <BR>大家继续讨论对付F22办法吧, <BR>我觉得以前刀口的那个反F22的帖子, 说服力还是不够</STRONG></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1808195><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 天地浮云 于 2010-7-17 08:54 AM 编辑&nbsp;</I><BR><BR> 1.jpg &nbsp;解放军新智能炸弹曝光 重达半吨威力巨大</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1808310><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 烟波钓叟 于 2010-7-17 01:41 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1807489&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2416#</FONT></A> <I>天地浮云</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 是去参加英国航展,地点应该是范保罗吧,之前记错了以为是范登堡</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;布衣青裳 <BR>谢谢布衣 GGXXS兄解惑<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>天地浮云 发表于 2010-7-17 08:35 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1808187&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.1467720891639127 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>天地兄客气了,还是布衣兄厉害,我倒是没说什么</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1809324>转:徐新荣会见中航工业试飞研究院党委书记白长义<BR> 1.jpg <BR>渭南电视台好强</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs <BR><BR>渭南电视台播了视频?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>天地浮云 发表于 2010-7-17 08:28 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809592&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>在“徐新荣会见中航工业试飞研究院党委书记白长义”里最后的镜头</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1809670><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 抄出智慧 于 2010-7-17 09:20 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>防务新观察比较T50和F22 <BR>机动;T50超过F22<BR>隐身:T50弱于F22(注意到一个细节,隐身面积已经比到了小数点后的第二位)<BR>作战半径:T50优于F22<BR>价格:T50优势明显<BR>总结:T50强于F22.<BR>其中弱弱的提到T50的弱点,发动机,发动机提到了俄罗斯投入不足的问题。(中国的投入没有任何问题,是不是已经超越?)航电(漏了一句还不如我国的XX),还有提到了等离子隐身,(晚上是一团火,想想杭州UFO的照片多像一团火,呵呵)<BR>其中提到T50是印度和俄罗斯共同研发,这样印度甚至会先于俄罗斯装备。但提到中国的应对措施的时候,好像并不是太担心。<BR>所以我总结如下:外形很科幻,意味着超级机动性,发动机可能也不弱,隐身也是小数点后面2位的水平,估计带等离子隐身。航电不弱于F22,价格估计用人民币计算,美国3.4亿,中国估计一样,只是币值是人民币,装备个几百架问题不大,呵呵,总结是应该全面超越F22。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1809715><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-17 10:17 PM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>防务新观察比较T50和F22 <BR>机动;T50超过F22<BR>隐身:T50弱于F22(注意到一个细节,隐身面积已经比到了小数点 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>抄出智慧 发表于 2010-7-17 09:18 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809670&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>F22反射面积大于0.1、T50大于0.5,F22是批量型、T50是原型机,T50还要过很多年才能用<BR>这个3.4亿是美元,如果日本要买可能就是这个价,美国自己要少一点点</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1809745>发表于 2010-7-17 10:19 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>F22反射面积大于0.1、T50大于0.5,F22是批量型、T50是原型机,T50还要过很多年才能用<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-17 10:02 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809715&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>f22的涂料出现问题,到现在没有解决好.主要是隐身漆皮脱落后进入发动机造成打坏涡轮叶片的问题是颠覆性质的,目前没有好的解决办法.俄罗斯干脆先不大量使用隐身涂料来应付,问题是,我们会不会学俄罗斯?<BR>据说不会.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1809754>说F22每次飞行后都要重新涂装隐身涂料?<BR>嘿嘿,忘了是在哪里看到了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo><EM id=authorposton1809770>发表于 2010-7-17 10:29 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>f22的涂料出现问题,到现在没有解决好.主要是隐身漆皮脱落后进入发动机造成打坏涡轮叶片的问题是颠覆性质 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-17 10:19 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809745&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>F22这样还能打仗吗,这个不解决很难堪用,如果只涂几个地方还会好点,虽然要降指标<BR>F35不会也有这问题吧</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1809776>发表于 2010-7-17 10:31 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>说F22每次飞行后都要重新涂装隐身涂料?<BR>嘿嘿,忘了是在哪里看到了。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>天地浮云 发表于 2010-7-17 10:23 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809754&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>反正B2是需要维护的,以前有人去美国给B2打工做维护,薪水是很高但是涂料有毒,那人干了段时间辞了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1809782>发表于 2010-7-17 10:34 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>F22这样还能打仗吗,这个不解决很难堪用,如果只涂几个地方还会好点,虽然要降指标<BR>F35不会也有这问题吧<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-17 10:29 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809770&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>美国为什么只造187架F22?主要是问题比较大。<BR>F35不是特别强调隐身,主要是解决短距和垂直起飞问题,研发方向不完全一致。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1809805><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-17 11:18 PM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>美国为什么只造187架F22?主要是问题比较大。<BR>F35不是特别强调隐身,主要是解决短距和垂直起飞问题,研发 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-17 10:34 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809782&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>刀大,请问F35反射面积大于1吧,而且超重了,价格也翻倍至1.35亿<BR>美国砍了F35的备用发动机,要是再来一次大面积停飞连换的都没有</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1809862><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809782&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2447#</FONT></A> <I>刀口</I> </STRONG><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 我看过一个关于我国4代机论文上的一个图,图上面画的是一个前掠鸭翼的飞机,飞机上画了几个圈,图解说的是高压电弧空气离子化的地方。那个隐身性和隐身涂料哪个比较好呢?<BR><IMG alt="" src="http://wareye.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/19.jpg"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1809881>嘿嘿明白鸟~刀大的意思是说“类似F22的问题我们已经解决鸟”。所以我们不需要学毛子……</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1810458>发表于 2010-7-18 08:14 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1810458>鹅毛不爽,开始胡说八道了,&nbsp;&nbsp;竟然说J10是 仿造F16 <BR><BR><IMG alt="" src="http://image163.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100718/08/5374243420100718081138013.jpg"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大,请问F35反射面积大于1吧,而且超重了,价格也翻倍至1.35亿<BR>美国砍了F35的备用发动机,要是再来一次 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-17 10:47 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809805&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>F35是世界上第一种没有经过设计合格审查就制造的飞机,目前的问题都逐步的显现出来,最近垂直起落型也就是海军型,发现垂直风扇发动机喘振问题严重.主要是进气量不够,这个问题很不好解决.进气不够意味着发动机处于危险状态,零件将在非正常状态下工作.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1810538>那个垂直起降我们倒是可以参考<BR>有问题慢慢公关,垂直起降是个好东西啊</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>F35是世界上第一种没有经过设计合格审查就制造的飞机,目前的问题都逐步的显现出来,最近垂直起落型也就是 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-18 08:44 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1810517&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>看来F35还早的很,进气问题也许要改进气口、换风扇或者改结构,等可用了,我们第2个四代也快了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs <BR>兄台话没错,量产和原型机差别节目中也提到,隐身性能一节节目中内容如此,另外真实隐身 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>抄出智慧 发表于 2010-7-18 08:25 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1810497&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.2023454347388926 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>隐身的数字那是美国吹的太过了,如果0.0001那不是比导弹的反射面积还小,不少国家研究测试后说F22大于0.1、F35大于1,T50比F35强到是没问题</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>F35这么大问题?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>爱人在北回归线 发表于 2010-7-18 02:56 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1810986&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.021109568255500477 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>加拿大86亿美元买的65架F35,八成是阉割版</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;刀口&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 我看过一个关于我国4代机论文上的一个图,图上面画的是一个前掠鸭翼的飞机,飞机上画 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>marx 发表于 2010-7-17 11:28 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1809862&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.31875740509609246 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>这个鸭翼图上的"四代“我们过去讨论过,按这个俯视图看,飞行员对两侧的视野受严重影响,这对飞行员的心理造成压力,所以图不过是个例图,说明反射区而已。等离子隐身代价太大,目前不可能实现。<BR>我认为,目前战斗机的隐身攻击还要电子战飞机和其他电子干扰配合,可以更好的掩护己方的隐身机。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;刀口 <BR>刀大,这是我从巴基斯坦枭龙广告截的图<BR>我们现在的比这个好吧<BR><BR>视频请看&nbsp;&nbsp;37楼<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-18 02:14 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1810945&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.985503235908854 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>咱们自己的有图吧?以前贴过,就是四代仪表舱那个,右手测杆操作那个图。<BR>你的视频截图上的头盔瞄准具可以按巴基斯坦的要求去做。<BR>巴基斯坦飞行员的技艺高超,飞机能发挥到最大效能,我们观摩时都很吃惊。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812237>巴基斯坦飞行员的技艺高超,飞机能发挥到最大效能,我们观摩时都很吃惊。<BR><BR>刀版说过,意思好像是一二代的老飞那是真正的高手剑客。<BR><BR>刀版看巴基斯坦飞行员的表现,吃惊的是他们比我们厉害,还是居然能向我们一样了解飞机,飞到极致。当时他们飞的是老七老六还是枭龙啊。<BR><BR>嘿嘿,有点孩子气啊这个问题。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>F35是世界上第一种没有经过设计合格审查就制造的飞机,目前的问题都逐步的显现出来,最近垂直起落型也就是 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-18 08:44 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1810517&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.39467825081564933 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><FONT color=blue><STRONG>刀大,霉鬼为什么会犯这样的错误呢?<BR><BR>被逼急了?<BR><BR>还是军火商公关实力强大?</STRONG></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812374><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812210&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2462#</FONT></A> <I>刀口</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 我晕。。 时间太久了,不好意思。。都忘了,呵呵<BR>好高兴哦~~ 刀大回我了 <BR>那等离子隐身的前景如何呢?值得发展么?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812414>巴空军称非洲和中东国家有意采购JF-17枭龙战机 <BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/19/content_13881015.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/19/content_13881015.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812416><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 天地浮云 于 2010-7-19 10:19 AM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>中国歼10电传飞行控制系统打破美俄法技术垄断<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/19/content_13881007.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/19/content_13881007.htm</FONT></A><BR>--------------总参陆航部某团在哈飞接受一批新型武装型直-9 <BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/19/content_13881236.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/19/content_13881236.htm</FONT></A><BR><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT>&nbsp; 1.jpg <BR> <BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812420>刀大说说巴基斯坦兄弟飞小龙的情况...极致...记得看过巴飞J10的报导,相当满意...很多地方显示巴飞行员很“挑剔”很“牛X"</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>咱们自己的有图吧?以前贴过,就是四代仪表舱那个,右手测杆操作那个图。<BR>你的视频截图上的头盔瞄准具可 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-19 08:09 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812211&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.09937709524404203 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>即使说我们的训练水平根巴方有差距? 刀大泻一下我方飞行员训练的情况吧, 家里边上就是海航机场, 看见豹爷总是飞的四平八稳的.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>巴基斯坦飞行员的技艺高超,飞机能发挥到最大效能,我们观摩时都很吃惊。<BR><BR>刀版说过,意思好像是一二代的 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>不明真相的酱油 发表于 2010-7-19 08:38 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812237&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.1527268984380401 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>应该不是比我们厉害,是比我们想象的厉害</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812895>中国重点型号航空发动机质量问题已经全面解决<BR><A href="http://www.sina.com.cn/" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://www.sina.com.cn</FONT></A>&nbsp;&nbsp;2010年07月19日 09:53&nbsp;&nbsp;中国航空报<BR>-------------------------------------<BR> 1.jpg <BR>据中国航空报报道 中航工业黎明从1954年创建至今,始终承担着重点型号研制任务。几代黎明人在发展中国航空工业的征途上,排除万难,励精图治,走出了一条从修理仿制到自主研发的创新之路。近几年来,中航工业黎明紧密依托核心技术专长,围绕重点型号研制,以总经理工程为依托,大力开展技术创新,积极探索创新生产管理模式,推动重点项目科研水平和公司整体技术实力的提升,为中航工业黎明的跨越式发展做出了突出贡献。2009年,在任务形势异常严峻的情况下,黎明重点型号交付再创历史新高。<BR><BR>  努力探索生产模式 全力提升交付能力<BR><BR>  2007年,中航工业黎明从强化专业化发展的角度出发,重新调整了军品生产线、辅助生产线、转包生产线和非航产品生产线。经过两年多时间的不断优化,目前已达到了生产流程畅通,上下游生产衔接紧密,生产效率不断提高,专业技术发展显著的良好效果。生产指挥流程也逐渐趋于稳定和合理,四大板块生产指挥工作更加具有系统化、条理化、科学化。制造的全过程从生产准备,到均衡生产实施,再到交付,实行全过程监控。各生产单位从“人、机、料、法、环”入手,抓关键点、抓短板,着力解决生产中突出的问题,不断消除瓶颈和浪费,实行优化排产,缩短生产制造周期。<BR><BR>  为适应研制生产要求,解决企业高速发展和传统管理模式之间的矛盾,中航工业黎明将ERP和MES两套系统的应用与建设提升到公司战略发展高度,将信息化建设纳入每月生产考核,抽调专业骨干组建信息化推进团队,重点梳理ERP、MES系统的生产流程模块,建立标准统一的生产信息管理流程,保证信息收集与传递的高效、准确、及时。目前中航工业黎明的ERP系统已完成所有批产型号的上线运行工作,基本实现了“按单开工”、“按单报工”、“按单入库”的管理模式,各种统计和分析功能已逐步应用到生产管理工作中。各生产厂的MES系统建设正在全面、有序的推进。截至2009年年底,中航工业黎明已有多个加工厂安装了MES系统,实现生产信息、数据在线收集、在线管理和在线控制。<BR><BR>  为建立高效沟通机制,推进精益化生产管控,中航工业黎明在生产系统实行“季部署,月总结,周报告,时沟通”的生产管控,力求实现以生产任务为核心,协同开展工作。<BR><BR>  2009年6月,中航工业黎明某重点型号生产遇到技术质量问题。面对困难,中航工业黎明广大干部职工妥善处理生产和攻关的关系,以科学求实的精神克难奋进,顽强拼搏,赢得了这场攻坚战的全面胜利,也使得中航工业黎明的队伍在型号攻关中更加成熟。<BR><BR>  某重点型号攻关,引起了多方关注。中航工业各层领导高度重视,迅速成立了攻关工作小组,紧锣密鼓地组织攻关工作。而作为型号总承单位,中航工业黎明首当其冲地冲锋在了此次攻关的最前沿。从分析问题到制定解决方案,最后实现问题再现,在短短的60多天里,中航工业黎明创造了奇迹。<BR><BR>  我国航空发动机的先驱吴大观生前曾说过:“航空发动机太难了,一定要吸取历史教训,按科学规律办事。”在型号攻关过程中,中航工业黎明管理、质量、生产、检验检测等系统打破系统界限,不分昼夜,不计得失,不言辛苦,连续加班加点,甚至几个昼夜“连轴转”。为了解决设计、冶金、质量、外场等问题,小组成员各司其职在最短的时间内完成了复查、数据分析、工艺试验、装配验证等故障分析工作,积累了大量数据,为成功进行问题定位奠定了基础。<BR><BR>  问题发生初期,数据统计是各项工作开展的源头。中航工业黎明根据排故攻关小组的分工安排,由发动机装配厂负责对发动机进行分解和装配,由质量管理部和产品检验检测中心负责对拆下的部件进行测量,最后由技术部门提出验证报告。<BR><BR>  为了能够尽快提供分析数据,装配厂连夜对发动机进行了分解。次日凌晨,中航工业黎明质量系统连夜开展工作,全面、细致和深入地进行生产、制造和工艺复查。由于工作量大,按正常工作进度,至少需要48小时才有可能完成,但上级指令要求在第二天下午2时前必须查清。为按照节点完成工作,质量复查工作人员改变按照倒流水复查的惯例,组织装配单位进行先期复查,深入到各生产厂收集整理原始数据,确定复查项目和要求,连夜组织5个有关生产厂全面深入开展自查。经过19小时的连续奋战,在问题发生后不到24小时的时间里,质量系统就组织完成了卷宗和履历本的查阅工作,审查和汇总了100余个零件号的复查内容,形成了复查报告。随后,质量管理部又对有关零组件装配情况、生产批次、库存情况进行了质量复查,查清了与本次故障相关联的问题,为故障分析及后续的整改工作指明了方向。<BR><BR>  中航工业黎明工艺系统连夜通报了故障情况,第二天就在工艺方面深挖原因,组织各分厂总师等人员进行某重点型号工艺规程全面复查。这是中航工业黎明历史上复查相对彻底、发现问题最多的一次工艺规程复查。此外,中航工业黎明整个工艺系统还对设计所某重点型号问题分析中所涉及的工艺进行了细致的排查与分析,比较准确完整地反映了某重点型号的工艺现状。<BR><BR>  作为这次攻坚主战场的公司发动机装配厂,在排故工作中根据不同阶段及排故的具体需要,对现场的实物批次、装配过程、技术文件、质量文件进行了大量的复查。每一项复查结果都要经过严格的校对、审核,以保证用于故障分析的基础数据的精准。尤其是问题发生初期,装配厂顶住了巨大的压力,为了能够尽快提供问题分析所用的数据,工厂技术系统、生产系统、质量系统共复查各项技术参数,并形成总结报告。<BR><BR>  通过不懈努力,中航工业黎明某重点型号排故工作取得了突破性的进展。通过对验证试验机的检查认定,验证了前期对某重点型号的问题分析以及排故方案和有关措施的正确性。<BR><BR>  “碧海飞鲨,涛浪涌,长疆凭借。极目去,扫平天际,夜叉惊灭。振奋雄风酬壮志,激扬士气军旗猎。踏征程,困阻笑谈中,声声惬。<BR><BR>  劈荆棘,从不怯。灾险历,难题解。共担当使命,志坚如铁。再创新谁能侧目,登高步步开新界。换海天,任纵越三洋,伊人歇。”<BR><BR>  中航工业党组书记、总经理林左鸣在六十周年国庆前夕为黎明科研攻关成功欣然挥笔祝贺。一阙《满江红》,万般航空情。(周鹏)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812902>放个“雷”!<BR>---------------------------<BR>韩国印尼将出资41亿美元联合研制KF-X隐形战机<BR> 1.jpg <BR><A href="http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2010-07-19/0822601308.html" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2010-07-19/0822601308.html</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><A style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px" href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/space.php?uid=92532" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>天地浮云</FONT></A> </DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1812913>发表于 2010-7-19 01:21 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1812913>从词内容看是和海有关了,呵呵。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><A style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px" href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/space.php?uid=95619" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>aliu3</FONT></A> </DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1813153>发表于 2010-7-19 02:28 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>中国重点型号航空发动机质量问题已经全面解决<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;2010年07月19日 09:53&nbsp;&nbsp;中国航空报<BR>-------------------- ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-19 01:18 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812895&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.08054799798389256 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><FONT color=blue><STRONG>布衣大,到底是啥发动机啊?<BR>有人说是J15用的</STRONG>。</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>巴基斯坦飞行员的技艺高超,飞机能发挥到最大效能,我们观摩时都很吃惊。<BR><BR>刀版说过,意思好像是一二代的 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>不明真相的酱油 发表于 2010-7-19 08:38 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812237&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.8701653281319477 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>整个80和90年代我们空军把安全放在第一位,所以当我们去巴基斯坦观摩巴的表演时,基本是吓了个半死!人家飞的我们基本不敢飞,比如当巴飞行员将强五超低空倒飞通场时,我们真的有人吓的一屁股坐到了地上,脸色惨白。这简直是玩命!<BR>巴基斯坦空军敌情观念极强,飞机虽然少但是飞行时间与欧美一样,而且敢做动作,大胆泼辣。巴基斯坦飞行员曾经与以色列空军交手并击落过尤太机,一点不落下风,可见能力之高!呵呵!<BR>当然这都是过去的事情,现在不一样了。本次歼十在小汤山表演,我们超低空离地3米也很不错。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>放个“雷”!<BR>---------------------------<BR>韩国印尼将出资41亿美元联合研制KF-X隐形战机<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-19 01:19 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812902&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.485876043028272 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>啊?俺这个菜鸟都知道武器外挂的不能隐身,莫非南棒子开发出隐身外挂了?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>放个“雷”!<BR>---------------------------<BR>韩国印尼将出资41亿美元联合研制KF-X隐形战机<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-19 01:19 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812902&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9405499815096577 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>他爹不用鸭子,他竟然敢用?反了他了!呵呵</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>中国的无人机操纵部队到现在都没有曝光过<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>wolf-zhang 发表于 2010-7-14 08:42 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1802089&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>这个应该是玩游戏的高手吧</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>整个80和90年代我们空军把安全放在第一位,所以当我们去巴基斯坦观摩巴的表演时,基本是吓了个半死!人家 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-19 07:52 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1814084&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>以前经常是不敢飞,记得空军有句话:你骗我,我骗他,大家都骗XX发。过去的日子不堪回首啊。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1814587><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 阿仿 于 2010-7-19 09:23 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>布衣兄,第五张与前面四张的机型完全不一样;第五张更有点象SU-32扁嘴兽。玻璃窗明显比前面几张高.<BR>布衣兄,能否细说一下第五张是什么机型?如果那个泄密,就免了,呵。<BR>谢谢!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1814594>训练经费也能充分保证,要向训练要成绩。<BR>敢于做动作,敢于尝试高难度。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1814791>发表于 2010-7-19 09:47 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>即使说我们的训练水平根巴方有差距? 刀大泻一下我方飞行员训练的情况吧, 家里边上就是海航机场, 看见豹 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>suedehe 发表于 2010-7-19 10:28</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812436&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>你所看见的是飞机起飞和降落阶段,所以飞的四平八稳的。<BR>不过,在降落阶段你可以看看后面降落的长机和前面降落的僚机,他们的在降落的时候的样子是不一样的。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1815064><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 lionkind117 于 2010-7-19 10:38 PM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>整个80和90年代我们空军把安全放在第一位<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-19 19:52</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1814084&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>几年前,央视有个电视剧《长空铸剑》,讲得就是这个事情。<BR><BR>里面有个情节很震撼:有个退休了的老飞行员看不惯天天“安全第一”,于是就在军史陈列室里挂了一条鱼,意思是“沽名钓誉”。从这个情节就可以看出,当时矛盾很激烈。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1815541>发表于 2010-7-20 01:34 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>转自谷歌:沈飞出厂试飞停机坪高清,双座........<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-19 08:33 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1814289&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>布衣兄,第5张这个状态怎么还露天啊,是退役的吗</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1815556>很早的无人机,看这次珠海航展有没有新的<BR><A href="http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU2NzYwMTY=.html">http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU2NzYwMTY=.html</A><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1815565><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-20 01:55 AM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>咱们自己的有图吧?以前贴过,就是四代仪表舱那个,右手测杆操作那个图。<BR>你的视频截图上的头盔瞄准具可 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-19 08:09 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812211&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9315685876152653 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>刀大,我是说头盔,不是说座舱<BR>那张图看过但是不记得有没有头盔了 <BR><BR>转:<BR>&nbsp; 01.jpg <BR>&nbsp; 02.jpg <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;中国空军南京战区苏-30战机空地导弹王杨永飞,从96年至今发射精确制导空对地攻击导弹11发11中,百里穿杨,导弹洞穿海岛目标工事洞库大门,从只比空地导弹翼展宽二倍的大门门缝正中间进入,在工事内部爆炸<BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------<BR>门应该不到3米</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1815586><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-20 02:10 AM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>整个80和90年代我们空军把安全放在第一位,所以当我们去巴基斯坦观摩巴的表演时,基本是吓了个半死!人家 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-19 07:52 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1814084&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9118882280816551 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<><BR>转:<BR> 1.jpg <BR><STRONG>远处啊……没落的苏霍伊只派了SSJ100来到英国……悲哀啊……</STRONG><BR> 2.jpg <BR> 3.jpg <BR> 4.jpg <BR> 5.jpg <BR> 6.jpg </P>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1815846>巴兄弟现在就在等 发财20到手后去蹂躏三哥的30.<BR><BR>貌似这个地球上第一关心我国丝带的是我们这帮军迷,第二的就是巴铁家的军迷,估计他们军迷都在设计将来 发财30 去虐三哥的t50.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>整个80和90年代我们空军把安全放在第一位,所以当我们去巴基斯坦观摩巴的表演时,基本是吓了个半死!人家 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-19 07:52 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1814084&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6355174004359571 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>谢刀大。<BR>空军提攻防兼备,武器性能是一个,人也能也敢就好。<BR>不与外军比,看我们自己的50老一代,那种精神!!虽然一提精神,就会有人讲YY之类的,可人真要没了精神,自己吓了尿裤子事小,让人家尿一头可事大了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1816060>发表于 2010-7-20 09:19 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs <BR><BR>是瞄准吊舱吧。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-20 08:42 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1815993&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.5493724123693179 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>刀大勤勉,这么早在线。<BR>刚才成飞“全球鹰”滑跑试验的视频显然是在附近庄稼地里偷拍,这么明显的泄密怎么能没人管呢?<BR>还有刚才惊雷贴里有人对卫星光谱分析弹头性质标识质疑,我也有同感,请刀大明示,谢谢</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1816159>发表于 2010-7-20 10:18 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大勤勉,这么早在线。<BR>刚才成飞“全球鹰”滑跑试验的视频显然是在附近庄稼地里偷拍,这么明显的泄密怎 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>大象无形 发表于 2010-7-20 09:19 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1816060&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.3932506282325202 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>具体的我忘了,不过我想应该不是做不到的。试想,深空探测发回来火星车对火星岩石和土壤的分析也是光谱分析,哪又是怎么实现的呢?准不准确呢?<BR>手头没有资料。不过,分析弹头的性质才能摧毁真正的弹头而不是假弹头,当然是很科幻的。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1816921><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1816159&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2503#</FONT></A> <I>bj_ewen</I> </STRONG><BR><BR>很年轻,走在街上很普通的那种年轻人,很不错。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1816944>中方官员称俄未冻结对华出口枭龙战机发动机 <BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/20/content_13886735.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/20/content_13886735.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1816948>俄称枭龙现身范堡罗引轰动 中国参展规模超俄&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月20日 13:28:38  来源:环球网—环球时报&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR>【字号 大 中 小】 【留言】 【打印】 【关闭】&nbsp;&nbsp;【Email推荐:&nbsp; &nbsp; 】&nbsp;<BR> 01.jpg <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 7月19日,在英格兰南部小城法恩伯勒召开了两年一度的法恩伯勒国际航空展(又译范堡罗航空展)。此次是第47届航空展,参与者包括来自38个国家的众多航空公司。参展展品有1300个,从最新的宽身机型到纳米技术为基础的新式样机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 俄新网7月19日发表了题为“范堡罗2010航展:中国所携最新军事技术超过俄罗斯”的文章称,俄方参展的是已经亮相的四代机,包括米格 -35、苏-35以及雅克-130。俄方还表示不打算在此次航展签署军事战机销售合同。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 文章认为,因为美国和欧盟缩减国防开支,因此军事航空工业部分仍处于低迷状态。据英国权威机构预测,2010-2012年欧盟国防开支将缩减 10-15%,美国将缩减7%(约460亿美元)。显然,对于现在的航天工业发展状况这不是个好消息,很多公司无法按计划将设计投入使用。比如A- 400M运输机,欧洲航空航天公司和空客得到了北约7国的生产订单,包括:比利时、英国、法国、德国、西班牙、卢森堡和土耳其。但交付时期延期了4年,实际成本已超过90亿美元。同样情况还发生在F-35身上,交付期拖延了2年,成本超过预算64%。F-35制造商洛克希德-马丁公司的参展品比上届少了一半也就不令人奇怪了。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 报道称,中国产品JF-17首次打入国际战机市场在该航展引发“小小轰动”。此前该战机还从未在其它国际航展中展出过,巴基斯坦是首批买家。(梁旭)<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/20/content_13886976.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/20/content_13886976.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1817214>1.突然相关论文多起来了,就是进入发展阶段了。<BR>2.然后相关信息“消失”了,这就是进入型号研制阶段了。<BR>3.再然后境外出消息了,网络上有蛛丝马迹了,这就是到了“实体”出来的时候了<BR>4.再再然后,一些震撼人心的甚至被“误解”的东西出来,那就进入测试高峰期了.........<BR>有所悟!!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>整个80和90年代我们空军把安全放在第一位,所以当我们去巴基斯坦观摩巴的表演时,基本是吓了个半死!人家 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-19 07:52 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1814084&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.1462803846226315 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>主要是领导的问题,军事演习就是军事表演,演给领导看的。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>1.突然相关论文多起来了,就是进入发展阶段了。<BR>2.然后相关信息“消失”了,这就是进入型号研制阶段了。<BR>...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ebxchd 发表于 2010-7-20 05:13 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1817214&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.19127454418185585 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>精辟啊,啊</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1817854>发表于 2010-7-20 10:39 PM</EM> | </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1817854><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-21 08:47 AM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs <BR><BR>是瞄准吊舱吧。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-20 08:42 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1815993&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.00951075477746377 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>转:C802A空射反舰导弹:<BR> 1.jpg <BR>雷石6滑翔式制导炸弹:<BR> 2.jpg <BR>SD10A中距空空导弹:<BR> 3.jpg <BR>WMD-7机载吊舱:<BR> 4.jpg <BR>机载武器展示:<BR> 5.jpg <BR> 6.jpg <BR> 7.jpg <BR> 8.jpg <BR> 9.jpg <BR>
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<P><BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>C802A,射程180km,重量600KG,比想象的轻一点,LS6出口射程60KM,吊舱后面的那个看不清,基本上都是中国武器<BR>请问刀大吊舱后面的是什么啊,另一种吊舱或者某种炸弹<BR><BR><BR>顺便贴点吊舱的图,请刀大说几句 <BR><BR>看不出来的吊舱:<BR> 无标题.JPG <BR><BR>06年展示的枭龙外挂:<BR> 1.jpg <BR><BR>更早的:<BR><A href="http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0611/142_5847_b6695ac3cc593c0.jpg" target=_blank><IMG style="WIDTH: 39px; HEIGHT: 41px" height=827 alt="" src="http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0611/142_5847_b6695ac3cc593c0.jpg" width=700 border=0></A><BR><A href="http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0611/142_5847_339de2c1a101702.jpg" target=_blank><IMG style="WIDTH: 33px; HEIGHT: 35px" height=605 alt="" src="http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0611/142_5847_339de2c1a101702.jpg" width=700 border=0></A><BR><BR>飞豹的:<BR><A href="http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0611/39_66_1c2955e49e31568.jpg" target=_blank><IMG style="WIDTH: 33px; HEIGHT: 32px" height=667 alt="" src="http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0611/39_66_1c2955e49e31568.jpg" width=720 border=0></A><BR><BR> 2.jpg <BR><BR>J10的<BR> 3.jpg </P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1818660>发表于 2010-7-21 08:34 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1818660>中国为强5攻击机配备新型智能武器延长使用寿命&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月21日 08:15:13  来源:新华军事&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>【字号 大 中 小】 【留言】 【打印】 【关闭】&nbsp;&nbsp;【Email推荐:&nbsp; &nbsp; 】 <BR><BR>  美国战略之页网站7月15日报道 题:中国给老机型安装新设备 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 据信在过去5年里,中国正逐渐让200架强-5攻击机退役。不过有人发现,一些强-5攻击机携带了电视制导智能炸弹。给强-5攻击机配备这种武器以及GPS制导炸弹,可以延长该机的使用寿命。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 强-5攻击机的设计基于俄罗斯的米格-19,该机重11.8吨。由于拥有双引擎,因此没有早期米格喷气式战斗机的前进气口。自1969年以来,中国共生产了1000多架强-5攻击机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 强-5配备有两门23毫米机炮,能够携带两吨炸弹和导弹。海军一直使用强一5携载反舰导弹。多年来,中国一直努力升级强一5。上世纪90年代初开始,强一5换装了很多现代化电子设备(平视显示器、激光测距仪等),并发展出能投放激光和GPS制导炸弹以及拥有瞄准吊舱的型号。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 之前外界普遍认为:这些能携带智能炸弹的改进型强一5战斗机只是试验性的。或许它们现在还是,但有人看到一些携带智能炸弹的强-5属于现役战斗机,而非试验性质<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/21/content_13891477.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/21/content_13891477.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1818985>发表于 2010-7-21 10:56 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1818985>苏霍伊总经理称中国产苏-33仿制品无法与俄真品相比<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/21/content_13891913.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/21/content_13891913.htm</FONT></A><BR><FONT color=#0000ff> 1.jpg <BR></FONT>俄罗斯"苏霍伊"和"米格"公司总经理米哈伊尔·波戈相20日在范堡罗国际航展上表示,中国生产的苏-33仿制品根本无法同俄罗斯的原产战斗机相提并论。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 波戈相应记者请求评论中国似乎正在进行俄罗斯苏-33仿制品飞行测试的收尾工作时说:“我们就苏-33和苏-27飞机的许可方案有问题问中国伙伴。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 他指出:“我们将在我们两国签署的协议框架内通过谈判解决这个问题,包括保护知识产权的协议。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 波戈相还补充道:“我们正在研究国际航空市场,研究包括采购方与竞争对手在内的各国是怎样工作的。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 他进一步指出:“我同时认为,任何仿制品都不能与真品相比。并且在这方面我们不惧怕竞争对手。”(据俄罗斯新闻网 <A href="http://www.rusnews.cn/" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>www.rusnews.cn</FONT></A> )<BR>-----------<BR>市场竞争激烈啊。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1819430>T50的不参展说明了什么?老毛子也就剩下在前苏联的废墟上YY的份了.............《我们的队伍向太阳》!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1819503><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1817854&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2511#</FONT></A> <I>ggxxs</I> </STRONG><BR>枭龙带的就是光学瞄准吊舱。其他的不是很清楚。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1819856><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 布衣青裳 于 2010-7-21 06:55 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>另外一个应该是低空雷达地形跟踪导航吊仓<BR>====================<BR>中国大量公开展示制导攻击武器,实质就意味着相关侦察.攻击.制导.导航机载系统的完善。有鸡才有弹,就这么简单!还有各种没有公开展示的密级更高的电子自卫干扰吊仓,电子侦察,电子专用干扰吊仓..............中国的各类吊仓已经形成一个配套齐全种类繁多的大家族。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821105>传配备国产"泰山"发动机的枭龙战机已进行试飞&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月22日 08:28:15  来源:科技日报&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>据Arabianaerospace网站报道,2009年巴基斯坦接收到了首批由中国制造的战机,这些战机就是由中巴联合研制的枭龙战机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 报道称,巴基斯坦两架飞机参加了范保罗航展。“枭龙”有望在航展期间展出,但只进行静态展出。巴基斯坦和中国都希望出口此战机,宣传称枭龙战机是替换老化的F-5和F-16的低成本替代机。巴基斯坦到年底估计有28架JF-17枭龙战机服役,计划最终为其空军配备250架。<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 目前,负责向全球推销中国制造的军用航空产品的中国航空技术进出口总公司正在与6个潜在客户谈判,而巴基斯坦政府也在与其他国家进行初步讨论。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 一名业内人士称,中国计划在全球军用航空市场上发挥重要作用,而其希望将对外出口“枭龙”战机作为该计划的一部分,而巴基斯坦则希望借助对外出口战机来降低本土组装战机的单位成本。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 这名业内人士说:“他们已经进行了一段时间的谈判,相关谈判会在范保罗航展上会继续进行,这是他们展示其飞机能力的大好机会。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 据称,对于承诺采购“大量飞机”的客户,中国或可协助其建立当地组装厂。这与中国在“枭龙”战机项目上给巴基斯坦的待遇以及数年前中国向埃及出售“洪都”K-8训练和轻型攻击机的方式相同。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 不过,报道指出,中国或许会在发动机方面遭遇困难,因为俄罗斯不希望中国对外出售RD-93发动机。中国贵州航空集团过去十年一直在为该战机研究WS-13泰山发动机,据报道3月份已用新发动机进行了试飞。但尚不清楚该公司是否已准备大批量生产此发动机。<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/22/content_13896931.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/22/content_13896931.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><A style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px" href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/space.php?uid=92532" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>天地浮云</FONT></A> </DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821109>我建成亚洲最大风洞群 有8座"世界级"风洞<BR>经过40年的发展,我国已建成亚洲规模最大、综合实力最强的国家级空气动力试验、研究和开发机构,其综合试验能力已跻身世界先进行列。<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 风洞是能人工产生和控制气流、以模拟飞行器或物体周围气体流动的一种管道状实验设备,它在武器装备建设和国民经济建设中发挥着重要作用。上世纪60年代以来,我国逐步建成了52座风洞设备和专用设施,构成了亚洲最大的风洞群,并拥有8座“世界级”风洞设备,具备火箭助推和飞艇带飞等飞行模拟试验能力,并具备从低速到24倍声速,从水下、地面到94公里高空范围的空气动力试验能力。(廖文根) <BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-11/24/content_10403400.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-11/24/content_10403400.htm</FONT></A><BR>-----------<BR>解放军空降兵首次成规模开展风洞伞降训练 <BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2009-07/06/content_11659536.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2009-07/06/content_11659536.htm</FONT></A><BR><FONT color=#0000ff> 1.jpg </FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1821116>发表于 2010-7-22 10:48 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>在中国买宝马的、泵吃的,都知道一个道理:配件难,维修点少,维修贵。买架灰机3亿,维修在乘以个2, ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>wolf-zhang 发表于 2010-7-22 10:28 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821079&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>正常情况,购买占1/3,全寿命维护应该占到2/3,维修难的可能不止</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1821137>发表于 2010-7-22 10:55 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;正义自有力量 <BR>小鬼子主要是想保留研发和制造战斗机的能力,鬼子拿中国说事儿,不惜生产相对落后的产 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-22 08:22 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1820865&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>不错,小日本比傻棒子精明多了。对棒子这样天生被人欺侮的种族,只能说这就是你们的命。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821182><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-22 11:29 AM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>转:<BR>2010年7月19日出版的最新一期美国《防务新闻》周刊发表该刊驻台北办公室主任温德尔-明尼克有关中国五代机研发问题的文章,文章以“中国的F-XX计划面临发动机难题”为题,称中国或在推进一种加力推力达15吨的WS-10G发动机,而对于18吨推力的WS-15来说,2010年是一个关键年,若不成功将意味着难以实现五代机在2017至2019年期间入役的目标。<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 文章首先说,有消息源显示,在2020年之前,发动机和雷达问题将阻碍中国F-XX下一代战机的小批量生产。一个台湾的防务消息源确信,这种战机将还处于调研阶段,挑战依然在于如何确保获得一款高性能的发动机和雷达。消息源表示,考虑到融合第五代技术的挑战,并没有多少证据显示中国大陆2020年之前研制出一款能够对付F-35或F-22的隐身战斗机,而中国需要300架这种战机。<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 防务新闻文章接着说,中国有两家公司即成飞和沈飞已展开原型机设计的竞争工作,有消息显示,它们都是一种双发双垂尾多功能战斗机。位于华盛顿的国际战略评估研究中心主任费舍尔认为,中国方面最费力的难题之一就是研发F-XX战机所用的发动机,俄罗斯方面已经日渐不情愿向中国出售战机用发动机,这迫使中国从国产发动机中选择,这就包括沈阳的WS-10涡扇发动机以及一款尚在研制的较高推力WS-15发动机。<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 新书《中国的军事现代化》作者费舍尔说,中国或许还在进行多个五代机发动机研发项目,一种加力推力达15吨的沈阳WS-10版本,有时候又叫做WS-10G,但18吨推力的WS-15是成都还是沈阳的项目,目前还不清楚,费舍尔说,对于WS-15来说,2010年是一个关键的年份,若不成功将意味着难以实现五代机在2017至2019年期间入役的目标。中国或许必须迅速行动了,看起来俄罗斯在向中国出售高性能发动机问题上日益不安。苏霍伊设计局和俄罗斯飞机公司(Russian Aircraft Corp.)总经理波戈相近期要求俄联邦军事技术合作局,阻止向中国交付用于配备JF-17/FC-1“枭龙”战机的100台RD-93发动机,因为担心该机会在出口市场上与米格-29竞争,波戈相还对中国生产歼-11B感到不安。<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 文章说,当技术和工艺被俄罗斯设阻时,很多情况下,中国转向乌克兰寻求替代。有未经证实的报道说,中国从乌克兰获得了苏-33的早期原型机作为研制国产舰载机的模板。有关一款国产航母舰载机是否将是沈阳歼-15“飞鲨”(Flying Shark)的争论还在继续,有消息说,歼-15该机带有鸭式前翼布局,在歼-11B基础上或者从乌克兰获得的苏-33原型机基础上研制。费舍尔还说,2009年中国海军司令提到海军有兴趣获得一款具备超音速能力的战斗机,暗示着F-XX或将同时担负路基和海基作战任务<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>感觉关于发动机推力费舍尔说了不少实话,其他的都是污蔑<BR>舰载机已经被美国叫飞鲨了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821192><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 布衣青裳 于 2010-7-22 11:35 AM 编辑 </I><BR><BR><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821182&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2530#</FONT></A> <I>ggxxs</I> </STRONG><BR>美国忽悠局的产物!同《美国之音》一样,一点真实的情况,无数荒谬误导的衍释+层出不穷的恶毒揣测诋毁。重要的已经不是真实技术,而是政治洗脑,意识宣传。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs <BR>美国忽悠局的产物!同《美国之音》一样,一点真实的情况,无数荒谬误导的衍释+层出不穷的恶 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-22 11:33 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821192&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>和平可夫很像,平可夫也就是几个中外的进出口说的是实话</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs <BR><BR>美国忽悠局的产物!同《美国之音》一样,一点真实的情况,无数荒谬误导的衍释+层出不穷的恶 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-22 11:33 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821192&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>的确,昨天上了一米国中心论坛(<A href="http://www.militaryphotos.net/" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://www.militaryphotos.net/</FONT></A>),一帮米鬼惊呼米家激光天下第一。<BR>对于西方世界,不看广告看疗效,再加一句,只做不说东方亮(对的很烂)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821438>咱们航空发动机有个APTD的计划(航空推进技术验证计划),属于不针对特定型号,军民结合的航空推进技术验证项目。就是对过去积累下来的全部软硬件资源,对发动机总体,主要部件,各个分系统,进行不断的综合集成与再研究再创新!然后对各种部件与整机在真实环境下进行大量的试验验证。——这就是中国版的“预研·探索”计划,核心目标就是构建出一个覆盖我国航空全部推力要求的“核心机”系列,彻底改变中国航空“动力不足”的面貌。<BR>从各种媒体零星透露出来的各种“验证项目”“预研技术”,都是这个整体计划的一个“分点节点”,其庞大性与覆盖面,已经全面相当于美国相应的“预研·探索·验证”计划。<BR>刘大响院士说的展望目标,背后是航空动力人的全面积累奋斗和突破!基础打坚实了,不远将来咱们一定能够看到一个航空动力型号的“井喷期”!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>转:<BR>东方网消息,据俄罗斯军工新闻网7月21日报道,俄罗斯代表团团长、俄联邦军事技术合作局第一副局长局亚 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-22 11:37 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821197&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6439317784854689 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>发动机合同是N年前的老合同,不是现在才订的。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821495><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-22 02:01 PM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>发动机合同是N年前的老合同,不是现在才订的。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-22 01:50 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821488&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.3008911918424049 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>应该还是那批200台,至少5年了,如果是引进这200台里面可能还有组装的<BR>毛子还吹过“提前两年向中国交付首批D30",“今年交付32台”<BR>我说的成发官报,估计是已经自产了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821534>咱们航空发动机有个APTD的计划(航空推进技术验证计划),属于不针对特定型号,军民结合的航空推进技术验证项目。就是对过去积累下来的全部软硬件资源,对发动机总体,主要部件,各个分系统,进行不断的综合集成与再研究再创新!然后对各种部件与整机在真实环境下进行大量的试验验证。——这就是中国版的“预研·探索”计划,核心目标就是构建出一个覆盖我国航空全部推力要求的“核心机”系列,彻底改变中国航空“动力不足”的面貌。<BR>从各种媒体零星透露出来的各种“验证项目”“预研技术”,都是这个整体计划的一个“分点节点”,其庞大性与覆盖面,已经全面相当于美国相应的“预研·探索·验证”计划。<BR>刘大响院士说的展望目标,背后是航空动力人的全面积累奋斗和突破!基础打坚实了,不远将来咱们一定能够看到一个航空动力型号的“井喷期”! <BR><BR><BR>布衣大,四个现代化现在不提了,但工业的积累过程还是必须的,跳跃式发展要不得。所以我们愿意等那个不久的将来。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821438>咱们航空发动机有个APTD的计划(航空推进技术验证计划),属于不针对特定型号,军民结合的航空推进技术验证项目。就是对过去积累下来的全部软硬件资源,对发动机总体,主要部件,各个分系统,进行不断的综合集成与再研究再创新!然后对各种部件与整机在真实环境下进行大量的试验验证。——这就是中国版的“预研·探索”计划,核心目标就是构建出一个覆盖我国航空全部推力要求的“核心机”系列,彻底改变中国航空“动力不足”的面貌。<BR>从各种媒体零星透露出来的各种“验证项目”“预研技术”,都是这个整体计划的一个“分点节点”,其庞大性与覆盖面,已经全面相当于美国相应的“预研·探索·验证”计划。<BR>刘大响院士说的展望目标,背后是航空动力人的全面积累奋斗和突破!基础打坚实了,不远将来咱们一定能够看到一个航空动力型号的“井喷期”!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1821488>发表于 2010-7-22 01:50 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>转:<BR>东方网消息,据俄罗斯军工新闻网7月21日报道,俄罗斯代表团团长、俄联邦军事技术合作局第一副局长局亚 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-22 11:37 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821197&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6439317784854689 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>发动机合同是N年前的老合同,不是现在才订的。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821495><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-22 02:01 PM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>发动机合同是N年前的老合同,不是现在才订的。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-22 01:50 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1821488&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.3008911918424049 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>应该还是那批200台,至少5年了,如果是引进这200台里面可能还有组装的<BR>毛子还吹过“提前两年向中国交付首批D30",“今年交付32台”<BR>我说的成发官报,估计是已经自产了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821515>上海09工博展上,已经出来型号SF-A的12~13吨的大涵道涡扇模型了,就是采用太行的核心机衍生的。这D-30KP-2发动机也就是个过渡品了,2.42的涵道比,12吨的推力,耗油高,寿命短,也就是个成熟度好了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821534>咱们航空发动机有个APTD的计划(航空推进技术验证计划),属于不针对特定型号,军民结合的航空推进技术验证项目。就是对过去积累下来的全部软硬件资源,对发动机总体,主要部件,各个分系统,进行不断的综合集成与再研究再创新!然后对各种部件与整机在真实环境下进行大量的试验验证。——这就是中国版的“预研·探索”计划,核心目标就是构建出一个覆盖我国航空全部推力要求的“核心机”系列,彻底改变中国航空“动力不足”的面貌。<BR>从各种媒体零星透露出来的各种“验证项目”“预研技术”,都是这个整体计划的一个“分点节点”,其庞大性与覆盖面,已经全面相当于美国相应的“预研·探索·验证”计划。<BR>刘大响院士说的展望目标,背后是航空动力人的全面积累奋斗和突破!基础打坚实了,不远将来咱们一定能够看到一个航空动力型号的“井喷期”! <BR><BR>布衣大,四个现代化现在不提了,但工业的积累过程还是必须的,跳跃式发展要不得。所以我们愿意等那个不久的将来。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821605>发动机问题,没有十足的把握,现在应该是我们请求人家给我们,如果是俗话说的“有一搭无一搭”的交涉,我们岂不是自找苦吃吗?做生意哪有这么做的?<BR>需求决定态度,我不怎么求你了,你就要小心了:这个买卖要砸!<BR>是不是这个道理?<BR>另外一个方面,有的“难言之乐”是不能说的,一说就让人家知道你是怎么回事了,就没有了周旋的余地。我们的朋友应该知道什么是“距离产生美”,有的事不能说透。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821609>发动机问题,没有十足的把握,现在应该是我们请求人家给我们,如果是俗话说的“有一搭无一搭”的交涉,我们岂不是自找苦吃吗?做生意哪有这么做的?<BR>需求决定态度,我不怎么求你了,你就要小心了:这个买卖要砸!<BR>是不是这个道理?<BR>另外一个方面,有的“难言之乐”是不能说的,一说就让人家知道你是怎么回事了,就没有了周旋的余地。我们的朋友应该知道什么是“距离产生美”,有的事不能说透。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1821696>自己有就不向外购买了吗/美国不也向英国购买罗罗的发动机吗,相互验证技术的思路才能更清楚明确前进的方向。政策是对的,两条腿走路总比一条腿更稳不是吗</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1822191>说我们的战斗机和四代机的同时,也看看其他国家的情况。<BR>===================<BR>意大利国防部长证实欲削减欧洲战斗机&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月22日 15:49:35  来源:新华军事&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;据中国国防科技信息网报道:7月20日,在范堡罗航空展上的一次闪电式访问中,意大利国防部长证实,该国将其购买欧洲战机计划削减了25架。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; La Russa说,购买96架飞机,而不是原先计划的121架,意大利将节省20亿欧元(约合26亿美元),意大利正在推动的一部分国家债务削减计划,将为财政和金融市场的安全提供支撑。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 这25架飞机组成了最后一批3B的飞机订单,该订单尚未被欧洲战斗机的合作伙伴签署。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; La Russa还证实,代替最初购买10 艘FREMM护卫舰的计划,意大利将首先购买6艘,寻求出口给别国。巴西目前被视为一个可能的客户。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 意大利参谋长Vincenzo Camporini称,对于意大利军队更迫切的问题是削减维护和运营的资金,观察家说,此举对于培训和准备行动是不利的。[据防务新闻网站2010年7月20日报道](工业和信息化部电子科学技术情报研究所 刘 娜) <BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/22/content_13898423.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/22/content_13898423.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1822865>难道要购买我们国家的J10?<BR>便宜又适合国土防空。<BR>快点卖吧</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1822919>美国继续唱衰<BR><BR><IMG alt="" src="http://image163.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100723/08/5374243420100723080000060.jpg"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1822921>对于美国,唱衰是他必须的,特别是对我们。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>美国继续唱衰<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>正义自有力量 发表于 2010-7-23 08:01 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1822919&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6338015119606039 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>都是从中国网民那里得到的情报!<BR>“情报”虽然不准,贬低中国和妖魔化中国的目的很明确。连费希尔主要的人都一口一个“也可能”就很说明问题了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>都是从中国网民那里得到的情报!<BR>“情报”虽然不准,贬低中国和妖魔化中国的目的很明确。连费希尔主要的 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-23 08:28 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1822941&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.7232112959237863 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 对方很看中 网络民意的<STRONG>,&nbsp;&nbsp;所以我们要多发言, 表态支持政府, 反对美国</STRONG><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 谷歌就是看到民众支持政府,&nbsp; &nbsp;大戏演不下去了<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 发言人 秦刚 就多次引用网络民意来反驳美国的攻击</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>难道要购买我们国家的J10?<BR>便宜又适合国土防空。<BR>快点卖吧<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>猎庄狐狸 发表于 2010-7-23 07:14 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1822865&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.8374871124185313 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>J10有规定,2012前不允许出口</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1823650><STRONG>枭龙携机载武器亮相范堡罗 反舰能力不容小觊</STRONG><BR><BR>据新浪航空讯 2010年7月19日,两年一届的英国范堡罗航展在英格兰南部小镇范堡罗举行。此次范堡罗航展为第47届航空展,吸引了来自38个国家的航空制造商及航空公司参加,参展展品达到1300个。而此次公开亮相的众多明星战机中,巴基斯坦空军派出的两架JF-17雷电战机尤为引人注目,JF-17雷电战机即为中国航空工业集团成都飞机工业公司研制的枭龙多功能轻型战斗机,而这也是枭龙战机首次亮相范堡罗航展。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 枭龙公开亮相充分体现中国航空工业的崛起 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 作为世界上最重要的航展之一,范堡罗航展吸引了众多参展商的加盟,同时吸引着不断发展的中国航空制造商的参与。但是此前由于种种因素的限制,中国展品出现在范堡罗航展上更多的是各型飞机的模型。而与以往不同的是,此次中航工业成飞研制的枭龙战机从巴基斯坦远道而来参加航展,而且是两架一同前往,这说明了中国航空工业有了足够的自信,国产战机在国际航展上也有了与其他明星战机一觉高下的实力。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 据悉,目前已经有4-6名客户对枭龙战机表现出了极大的兴趣。而1600万美元的单价也吸引着很多希望拥有第三代战斗机的国家。而做为联合研制的巴基斯坦方面则表示,未来可能采购数量高达250架的枭龙用于装备巴基斯坦空军。如此众多的订单数量充分说明了巴基斯坦对于中国航空工业水平的肯定,巴基斯坦空军能专程安排两架枭龙飞赴英国参展也能反映出巴空军对枭龙战机性能的充分信任。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 枭龙展示C802A反舰导弹 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 枭龙此次长途奔袭赴英国参加范堡罗航展,不仅让观众能够一睹枭龙战机的真容,枭龙所携带的各型武器也悉数亮相。此次枭龙携带的各型武器包括C802A反舰导弹、雷石-6滑翔制导炸弹、SD-10A中距空空导弹、WMD-7机载光电瞄准吊舱。枭龙此次展示的武器表明,作为一款轻型的第三代战斗机,枭龙不仅具备优异的空战能力,同时还具备强大的对地/对海攻击能力。从所携带的武器来看,巴基斯坦军方不仅希望枭龙具备夺取制空权的能力,也把攻击海上目标赋予了这款轻型战斗机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 枭龙战机理论上可挂载3枚C802A反舰导弹 反舰能力不容小觊 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 枭龙战机首次降落在范堡罗机场时,机腹及翼下的三枚3个800升副油箱清晰可见,但是枭龙在长距离飞行过程中翼尖并未挂载霹雳-5空空导弹,减轻负载或许是为了节省燃油增大航程。而静态展示时,枭龙翼尖挂架上则挂载了霹雳-5型空空导弹。但是作为轻型战斗机的枭龙挂载能力并不弱,此前曾有报道称,枭龙飞机成功进行了4枚炸弹和3个800升副油箱的空中全部投放,枭龙的载弹能力可见一斑。从携带的的3个副油箱的挂载能力看,若将3个800升的副油箱换成C802A反舰导弹,那枭龙对海攻击能力不容小视。而从此次展示的C802A反舰导弹数据来看,弹重600公斤,发射距离达180公里。而满载能力达3.8吨的枭龙来说,理论上则可挂载3枚C802A反舰导弹,如果按编队飞行,两架枭龙满挂6枚C802A的反舰能力不容小觊,唯一的问题则是枭龙目前装备的KLJ-7脉冲多普勒雷达是否能引导C802A发挥它的最大射程了。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 枭龙可挂载西方武器 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 据资料显示,枭龙飞机所有挂点既可挂装符合MIL-STD-1760标准的武器,也可挂装东/西方国家非标准武器。外挂管理系统的标准武器接口单元(SAIU)用于监视武器外挂状态、执行飞行员对武器的操作,监控投射条件并输出投射指令,监控武器投射方案,应急投放处理等。枭龙飞机完善的航电及武器系统,以及灵活的外挂配置方案,为打击不同的空/地/海目标提供了有力的保障。因此,巴基斯坦空军所展示的武器并非摆设,而是实实在在可以进行攻击的武器。同时,枭龙还能挂载不同标准的武器,这为潜在的客户提供了更加丰富的选择,做为多用途战斗机的枭龙来说,这无疑是最大的亮点。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; WMD-7机载光电瞄准吊舱首次亮相 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 伴随此次枭龙战机亮相的雷石-6与SD-10A中距空空导弹已广为人知了,而 WMD-7机载光电瞄准吊舱则是首次公开亮相。此外,枭龙还可挂载国产电子干扰吊舱、侦察吊舱和前视红外跟踪/激光照射吊舱。通过挂载不同的吊舱,枭龙的对地攻击性能将得到极大的增强。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 心病终于解决 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 此次巴基斯坦枭龙战机除了展示性能之外,自然是为了能够吸引更多的客户,枭龙做为一款优秀的多功能战机,它的诞生之处就是为了外销。但是,作为战机的核心部件的发动机,枭龙一直采用的是俄罗斯的RD-93。发动机的受制于人极大的阻碍了枭龙的外销。此前诸多的关于俄罗斯限制中国向巴基斯坦出口RD-93发动机牵动着众多人的神经。为此,中航工业也加快步伐研制国产发动机以替代RD-93。据最新消息,中航工业贵州航空集团研制的涡扇-13“泰山”发动机已经装机试飞了。枭龙战机心病终于得以彻底解决,泰山发动机量产后,枭龙这款性价比高、性能有益、用途广泛轻型战斗机必将获得更多市场份额。(陈 诚)<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/23/content_13902694.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/23/content_13902694.htm</FONT></A><BR><FONT color=#0000ff> 1.jpg </FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<P>图:济空航空兵某师战备等级转进实兵演练&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月23日 17:14:38  来源:中国军网&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> 1.jpg <BR> 2.jpg </P>
<P> 3.jpg <BR>图为7月22日,该师进行战备等级转进实兵演练的几个场景。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 济空航空兵某师紧贴实战要求,以遂行多样化军事任务为平台,着力锤炼部队应急机动作战能力,不断把按照新《大纲》施训推向深入。图为7月22日,该师进行战备等级转进实兵演练的几个场景。(陈名琳 严新宇 摄)</P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-23 08:53 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1822980&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.6019764112452932 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>肯定是吊舱。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1824990><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-24 12:21 AM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>肯定是吊舱。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-24 12:03 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1824975&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.5447548765313667 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1824992>发表于 2010-7-24 12:22 AM</EM> | </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>刀大提出了个“难言之乐”,乐?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>aliu3 发表于 2010-7-23 10:01 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1823082&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.08922892544609095 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>这个应该很容易想到。<BR>虽然我们坚持独立自主的研发,那是没有办法,问题是,当代,这个世界上谁独立研发过什么东西呢?比如发动机,世界上的喷气发动机只有两个来源,一是德国二是英国,几乎同时发明了喷气发动机,我们历数现在的发动机技术都能往回导到这两台发动机上。<BR>比如现在当打之年的俄罗斯的AL31和美国的F100系列,导回去都来源于德国的那台发动机,和英国的罗罗。<BR>我们现在的几型发动机也有罗罗的基因和德国那台发动机的基因,问题是,你悟透了没有,有没有一个从不懂到懂的全过程,真正的知其然并且知其所以然,如果悟透了,自然就有“难言之乐”。<BR>这句话怎么说呢?意思是,我明白了,我从头到尾的悟出了道理,这份成就感跟无关的人说不着。<BR>佛所说的“大彻大悟”就是这个道理,修行的过程是艰苦的,一旦“悟出道理”,又进入了一个境界,所谓“欲穷千里目更上一层楼”。<BR>涡扇喷气发动机是后工业时代王冠上最大的一块钻石,只有下苦功最大限度的发挥自己的聪明才智才会拿到。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1825002>发表于 2010-7-24 12:33 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>多谢刀大,<BR>逛了下巴基斯坦的论坛,WMD-7旁边那个据说是KG300A<BR>和歼8带过300G外形区别明显<BR>...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-24 12:18 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1824990&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.38452721176818805 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>第一幅是长征火箭吧!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1825027><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 ggxxs 于 2010-7-24 01:05 AM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>第一幅是长征火箭吧!<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>刀口 发表于 2010-7-24 12:33 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1825002&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.40102334460797223 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<P><BR>那个8mx6m的大飞机风洞曝光出来,是不是说明大运快了<BR> 1.jpg </P>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1825767>6发大飞机, 猛烈</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1826833>大规模曝光“风洞”!——大好事!4代成果出来了!“大运”实体落地了!<BR>这么一系列的央媒曝光,是充分说明了“风洞”吹风,获得了决定性的成果,可以大规模宣扬了,这也是一种刀版一再提到的“难言之乐”!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1826852><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 布衣青裳 于 2010-7-24 06:31 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1825027&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2566#</FONT></A> <I>ggxxs</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 哈!都是精确弹,“捷达姆GPS穿地弹,激光制导弹,以色列“瞪眼”空地弹”,这样的全套是首见。<BR>——上面的图表示的是“远程精确打击”配置,下面的一张是“近距前沿火力支援”配置,这图绝对是内部展览图!把飞豹的两种不同的攻击任务配置,完整的展示出来了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;ggxxs&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 哈!都是精确弹,“捷达姆GPS穿地弹,激光制导弹,以色列“瞪眼”空地弹”,这样的全 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-24 06:27 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1826852&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>还是布衣兄厉害,一眼看出钻地弹,我只能看出,北斗/GPS</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>还是布衣兄厉害,一眼看出钻地弹,我只能看出,北斗/GPS<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-24 08:21 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1827016&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>嗨,玩个皇牌空战不就把西方世界的灰机和配套武器的课全补了嘛。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>嗨,玩个皇牌空战不就把西方世界的灰机和配套武器的课全补了嘛。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>wolf-zhang 发表于 2010-7-24 08:32 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1827029&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>但是没漏过的钻地弹也不是很好认啊</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>大规模曝光“风洞”!——大好事!4代成果出来了!“大运”实体落地了!<BR>这么一系列的央媒曝光,是充分说明 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-24 06:20 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1826833&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.34099126041290645 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>布衣,四代成果从哪里可以看出来啊?还有,哪个黑色、很尖、没有鸭翼的飞机模样的是什么东西啊?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1827242>新一代的气动布局,必须有新一代的风洞成果,上一次曝光风洞恰恰是歼10样机完成之后。<BR>-------------------<BR>F16,一个是可以研究它国布局,一个据此模型校验风洞调试数据。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1827323><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1812902&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2475#</FONT></A> <I>布衣青裳</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 不要小看印尼,印尼的航空业很有些基础,<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 只是98年金融危机时,被美国人摆了一道。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1827340><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1824992&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2564#</FONT></A> <I>刀口</I> </STRONG><BR><BR><FONT color=blue><STRONG>谢谢刀大解惑!!<BR>原理参透了,材料解决了那是就要修成正果喽</STRONG></FONT>!!!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>大规模曝光“风洞”!——大好事!4代成果出来了!“大运”实体落地了!<BR>这么一系列的央媒曝光,是充分说明 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-24 06:20 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1826833&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.7676416549128417 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>这么一系列的央媒曝光,是充分说明了“风洞”吹风,获得了决定性的成果,可以大规模宣扬了,这也是一种刀版一再提到的“难言之乐”!</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><FONT color=blue><STRONG>根据网友总结的我国成果发展规律,后面会是出现图片,否定意见,然后无声无息,最后冷不丁的,列装了</STRONG>!!!</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>新一代的气动布局,必须有新一代的风洞成果,上一次曝光风洞恰恰是歼10样机完成之后。<BR>------------------ ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-24 11:12 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1827242&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.8079041653940706 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>可不可以这么理解,现在曝光风洞,也意味着我们的四代和大运样机已经出来了?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1827746>我觉得!<BR>飞机要有自己的特色。。 外形要有我国的风格,让人家一看就知道是中国的飞机,打造品牌效应:)<BR>其实我想说的就是要注意外形美。。 <BR>6发大飞机如果再外形上再下一点功夫,那就完美了!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>可不可以这么理解,现在曝光风洞,也意味着我们的四代和大运样机已经出来了?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>1961lxy 发表于 2010-7-25 06:01 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1827726&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.39770289839754424 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>起码气动外形是早定型了............</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1828172>"枭龙"首飞将留给珠海航展 中巴正与6国商谈出口 <BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/25/content_13911146.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/25/content_13911146.htm</FONT></A><BR>.....<BR>那么在本次航展采访期间,我还在“枭龙”战机的室外展位前采访到了代表巴基斯坦方面前来参展的空军中校马赫穆德,他介绍说,由于是中巴共同研制的成果,“枭龙”战机在本次航展上只做静态展出<STRONG>。“枭龙”的首飞将留到今年11月在我国举行的珠海航展上进行。</STRONG>目前中巴双方正在与包括菲律宾、尼日利亚等在内的6个国家商谈出售战机的事宜。<BR>-------------<BR>这个首飞是啥意思?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1828515>枭龙的吸引力主要是与F16差不多,价格便宜一大半。使用老七的国家都是潜在的使用者。比较迷惑的是中国自己不用,让许多人感觉有点疑问。<BR>歼十的技术不能全移植到枭龙上来,那会暴露我们的最好水平和独门绝技。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1828640>罗斯第五代战斗机2015年交付使用&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月25日 08:39:57  来源:新华军事&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>【字号 大 中 小】 【留言】 【打印】 【关闭】&nbsp;&nbsp;【Email推荐:&nbsp; &nbsp; 】 <BR> 1.jpg <BR><BR>俄第五代战机T-50正在试飞<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 据中国国防科技信息网报道:据美国《航空周刊与空间技术》网站2010年7月21日报道 苏霍伊公司总裁米哈伊尔·波格相(Mikhail Pogosyan)在参加范保罗航展期间7月20日向外界透露,俄罗斯第五代战斗机PAK-FA(其原型机为T-50)将于2015年正式交付客户使用。尽管先前西方曾对此表示怀疑,认为与其它战斗机研发项目相比,PAK-FA的时间进度似乎太快。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 波格相表示,早期型的俄罗斯第五代战斗机将不会安装全新研制的发动机,而是使用现有发动机的现代化改进型。他同时预计,至少在2020年之前,另外一种现代化战斗机苏-35将会和PAK-FA同时进行批量生产。(中国航空工业发展研究中心 陈黎)<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/25/content_13910922.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/25/content_13910922.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1829119>印度计划采购57架先进教练机 培训海空军飞行员&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月25日 16:03:56  来源:新华网&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>【字号 大 中 小】 【留言】 【打印】 【关闭】&nbsp;&nbsp;【Email推荐:&nbsp; &nbsp; 】&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 新华网孟买7月25日电(记者聂云)据印度媒体25日报道,印度政府计划从英国采购57架先进的喷气教练机,用于培训海、空军飞行员。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 报道称,采购协议耗资大约940亿卢比(约20亿美元),并很可能在下周英国首相卡梅伦访印期间签署。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 印度曾在2004年与英国签订协议,采购66架“鹰”式教练机。目前,这些飞机正在交付使用。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 印度海军一位官员说,在即将采购的教练机中,将有17架被用于培训航母战斗机飞行员;其余为空军使用。<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/25/content_13912619.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/25/content_13912619.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>起码气动外形是早定型了............<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-25 10:19 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1828156&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.42819744371089924 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>起码气动外形是早定型了。那就是说,实际进度肯定不限于气动外形定型了。根据多位大侠的论述,四代和大运今年甚至可以首飞了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>那126架战机招标已经3年了,又推迟了,又涨价了,可能要重新来,也许他还没好我们的四代已经出来了,看这 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ggxxs 发表于 2010-7-25 10:30 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1829476&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.30838669057648055 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>9494自己的基础工作就那样,全靠对外采购是不能支撑一国的国防的,这是阿三的杯具</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1830278>汉和称中国将用俄制发动机造8架轰6K保持威慑力&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月26日 09:16:35  来源:东方网&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR>【字号 大 中 小】 【留言】 【打印】 【关闭】&nbsp;&nbsp;【Email推荐:&nbsp; &nbsp; 】 <BR><BR><BR> 1.jpg <BR><BR>中国空军现役轰-6H轰炸机。<BR><BR>外媒:中国轰6K战力接近俄罗斯图-22M轰炸机 <BR>俄媒:轰6不算战略轰炸机 无法满足现代要求<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 据俄罗斯军工新闻网7月23日报道,加拿大《汉和》杂志7月刊援引俄罗斯国防工业消息人士的话报道称,2010年中国应当得到32台D30-KP-2发动机,其中16台可能将会用于已具备战略轰炸机性能的轰6K的生产,预计至少制造8架,从而作为中国三位一体核力量的空中组成部分确保战略核威慑能力。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 俄国防工业系统权威消息人士认为,尽管中俄之间的伊尔-76运输机供应合同最终未能生效并履行,但是注重双边战略关系发展的俄罗斯有意履行主协议框架内的补充合同,对华供应D30-KP2发动机。根据相关协议条件,这些发动机原定用于中国伊尔-76运输机的备份,应予储存,但是中方却准备将其改用到国产新型轰炸机的生产上。这位消息人士说:“我们非常清楚,中方特别关注这份补充合同,是因为他们准备把这些发动机用到自己最新型号轰炸机的生产上去。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 《汉和》指出,D30-KP-2发动机已经装配到一到两架轰6K原型机上,作为6枚射程不低于2000公里的CJ10空射巡航导弹的载体,轰6K作为中国核三位一体的空中组成部分,将会使中国空军拥有实施核反击的现实能力。显然,俄罗斯并没有对D30-KP-2发动机的这种用途产生错觉,由于双方在这批发动机可以接受的用途上意见不一,因此发动机交付合同几乎被冻结了3年之久。另外,轰6K的生产同样引起了美国的严重关切。俄方消息人士透露:“协议刚一签署,我们就准备履行。在2009年12月举行的俄中军事技术合作会议上,我们正式通告中国,表示我们准备履行发动机供应补充合同。由于俄罗斯发动机生产商赔本,合同将靠政府贷款履行。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 加拿大媒体认为,挂载6枚射程2000公里的CJ10空射巡航导弹的轰6K已经具备了战略轰炸机的某些特点,与作为战术轰炸机研制而成的轰6家族基础型号相比,向前迈进了一大步。补充合同最初规定向中国供应240台D30发动机,但在首批发动机交付之后,供应数量锐减至32台,显然是俄罗斯有了某种担心,因而大幅削减供应量。由于D30发动机供应迟滞,轰6K的全面生产自2007年后被迫中止。不过在今年32台新型D30-KP-2发动机供应之后,中国西安航空制造公司将能够重新启动轰6K生产线。<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 《汉和》推测称,在俄方今年计划供应的32台D30-KP-2新型发动机中,至少16台将会装配到新型轰6K双发轰炸机上,其余16台用于备份,也就是说,中国可能至少生产8架轰6K,如此数量足以保证发挥核威慑作用。此前俄联邦军事技术合作局第一副局长福明在英国范堡罗航展上明确宣布,俄中签署的55台D30-KP-2发动机供应合同将会如期履行,其中3批每次4台已经交付。(编译:书山)<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/26/content_13916134.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/26/content_13916134.htm</FONT></A><BR>-----------<BR>平大湿果然经不起念叨,前些天好象看到有朋友说平大湿要出来了。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1831883>发表于 2010-7-27 03:40 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1831883>我总觉得平大湿,美国人,WW们老拿发动机来说事,这不是成心要逼我们把发动机搞成吗?<BR>太不了解中国人了。。。。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1832216>发表于 2010-7-27 08:26 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1832216>何止啊,还有国内的扑屎小白,言必称“发动机”</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1832265>发表于 2010-7-27 09:04 AM</EM> | </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1832265><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 布衣青裳 于 2010-7-27 09:06 AM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>人家从来只会“看到”咱们的不足,可能歪歪扭扭的承认一点“进步”,很好!中国革命就是在敌人的骂声,诋毁声中不断成长壮大起来的,这一点依然没有改变。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1832309>雅加达邮报近日报道称,<STRONG>巴基斯坦国防部长乔杜里·阿赫迈德·穆克塔尔21日访问雅加达时,向印尼国防部长推荐JF-17战机。</STRONG>对此,印尼国防部长普尔诺莫·尤斯吉安托罗表示,进一步讨论将于今年10月进行。他说:“在决定我们是否有意采购这款飞机之前,我们应该先了解一下它。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 普尔诺莫称,JF-17战机是由巴基斯坦和中国联合研制的。生产商称,与美国的F-16战机相比,这款战机不但价格低廉,而且性能更好。据普尔诺莫称,巴中两国计划生产500架JF-17战机,其中350架是为巴基斯坦生产,而其余150架则由中国所有。他说:“我被告知,巴基斯坦战机的水平高于美国F-16战机,以及俄罗斯的苏霍伊战机。不过,我们需要亲眼看到它才行。” <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 巴基斯坦国防部长穆克塔表示,JF-17战机是巴基斯坦国防工业历经多年工程改进之后得到的结果。他说:“我国防工业已得到了适当的发展,我们已为应对破坏我们和平计划的国家做好准备。”巴基斯坦驻印尼大使萨瑙拉赫在提及JF-17战机时也称这款战机可满足印尼军队的需要。<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/27/content_13920969.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/27/content_13920969.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1832419><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 天地浮云 于 2010-7-27 10:25 AM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>俄媒称发动机雷达将是中国研制五代机最大障碍<BR>据俄罗斯军事平等网7月25日报道,中国目前正在加紧研制自己的第五代战斗机,不过,发动机和雷达将是中国人遇到的最大障碍,同时还会影响到新机的服役时间。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 有分析人士指出,由于将第五代战斗机技术整合入J-XX的难度并不是太大,因此中国有可能会在2020年时制造出能够与美国F-22或F-35匹敌的新型战机。据分析,中国将会制造大约300架新一代战斗机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 中国的两家航空业巨头——成都航空工业集团和沈阳航空集团已开发出两款相互竞争的原型机。这两种战机均采用了双发动机和双垂尾的设计方案。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 尽管整体布局已经初步确定,但中国人在研制第五代战斗机面临的一项最主要问题却是发动机。虽然俄罗斯曾希望向中国提供高技术发动机,但中国人却仍在开发自己的国产装备,即WS-10(加力推力为15吨)和WS-15(最大推力18吨)。 <BR>美国国际评估和战略中心高级研究员理查德·费舍尔指出,今年将是WS-15计划极为关键的一年,如果该项目无法取得突破,那将意味着中国无法在2017-2019年间装备国产的第五代战斗机。因此,中国人可能将被迫投入更大的努力。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 中国人在航空发动机上的执着正在使俄罗斯陷入尴尬境地。俄苏霍伊公司总经理波戈相不久前曾建议俄联邦军事技术合作局冻结向中国出售100台RD-93发动机的协议,以防止它们被安装到可能会影响到米格-29出口的中国产JF-17战斗机上。他同时还对中国以苏-27为基础仿制出J-11B的行为表示了不满。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 此外,中国在很多情况下还向乌克兰寻求帮助,以获取俄方拒绝提供的专有技术。有消息称,中国已从乌克兰购得了一架苏-33的早期原型机并以此为基础研制出了自己的舰载战斗机——J-15。(编译:北斗)<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/27/content_13921051_1.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/27/content_13921051_1.htm</FONT></A><BR>------------<BR>呵呵,看着俄罗斯媒体的文章,我想用不了多久,事实会说话的。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1832577>嘿嘿,这T-50中国不赶趟,老毛子邪火着呢,研究费装备费,这不还“等米下锅”吗?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1832589>T50也就骗骗阿三的银子了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>T50也就骗骗阿三的银子了<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>qqsunfaye 发表于 2010-7-27 12:11 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1832589&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9922643862732212 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>原装的还不给,弄个双座的“阿三版”忽悠它.................</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>嘿嘿,这T-50中国不赶趟,老毛子邪火着呢,研究费装备费,这不还“等米下锅”吗?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-27 12:08 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1832577&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.5667254584127012 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>毛子报道过,拨的钱差不多等于改装费,远不够造4代</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>原装的还不给,弄个双座的“阿三版”忽悠它.................<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-27 12:27 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1832634&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9255941691230638 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>那个好像是阿三自己非双座不要,毛子不骗白不骗</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>还有马先生主持的凤凰台某娱乐节目...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>rockmaple 发表于 2010-7-27 08:36 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1832221&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.9692024429203985 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 哈哈,以前中国这也没有,那也没有,外国的都全是高科技,=到中国这也有了,那也有了,那这也不是高科技了,那也不是高科技了,哈哈,<BR>真是笑死人了,搞双重标准,从1949年一直说到现在,脸没有红过。。。。。。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1833294>这不奇怪.这几年"核心技术"这个词说的多吧,啥叫"核心技术",就是凡是中国生产不了的,不论它是什么,有没有必要国产,立马就能混个"核心技术"的帽子戴一戴.啥叫"廉价商品",就是凡是中国生产的,不论它是什么,有没有技术含量,也立马跌到白菜价.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>这不奇怪.这几年"核心技术"这个词说的多吧,啥叫"核心技术",就是凡是中国生产不了的,不论它是什么,有没有必要 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>ljdfw 发表于 2010-7-27 05:39 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1833294&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 瞧瞧,这画皮揭的!可不就如此!可惜现在有色眼镜人等得戴着“放大镜”和“显微镜”来观察鸟,某个配件啦,某项专利技术啦,或者某个贴牌产品啦....................诸如此类!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1833304>发表于 2010-7-27 05:47 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1833304><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 PLAYCAT 于 2010-7-27 05:50 PM 编辑 </I><BR>就象现在的美女一词泛滥成灾一样,真正能称为美女的又有几个?我对高科技和核心技术的理解是:只有我自己才能制造出来的东西才是高科技,别人离了我都造不出来的东西属于核心技术. 高科技就如同大白菜反季节上市,大西瓜温室种植,只是打个时间差。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1833319>发表于 2010-7-27 06:06 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1833319>注意没:<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;今天的环球军事版说&nbsp;&nbsp;中国方面主动提出,愿意用掌握的先进技术帮助俄罗斯改进俄制发动机<BR>这样毛发的出口也能扩大.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>各位有何感想?----难言之乐!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1833480>发表于 2010-7-27 08:04 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1833480><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 长空风月 于 2010-7-27 08:06 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1833319&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2615#</FONT></A> <I>心跳的压力</I> </STRONG><BR>那是高水平的最后警告:卖还是不卖? 不卖的话, 以后也不用卖啦!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>原装的还不给,弄个双座的“阿三版”忽悠它.................<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-27 12:27 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1832634&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.4939918280104185 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><FONT color=blue><STRONG>多个人多张票啊。阿三不求最好,只求最贵</STRONG>!!</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1836086>今天的新闻联播---<BR>探秘我空军第三代战机维修保障工厂[图] <BR> 1.jpg <BR> 2.jpg <BR> 3.jpg <BR> 4.jpg <BR> 5.jpg <BR>-------------<BR>陆海空全出来了,有心人应该看到我国强大的整体国防实力。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1836221><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1836086&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2618#</FONT></A> <I>天地浮云</I> </STRONG><BR><BR>看到了一个美女呀,而且位置很突出。有什么突出贡献么?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1836237><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 汉唐子民 于 2010-7-30 04:49 PM 编辑 </I><BR><BR>美女是空军那个厂厂长啊。巾帼不让须眉,不简单。员工大多数是年轻人。哈哈,好。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1836282>厂长向巧<BR>向厂长学的是金属材料及热处理专业,83年毕业于南昌航空工业学院。她不管在管理还是技术方面都非常有一套,在航空发动机叶片的多次渗金属(Al)以及叶片开裂修复技术有非常独到的一面。多次获得科技一等奖。现在向厂长正在北航攻读材料物理和化学博士学位。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1837417>发动机的好消息<BR><BR>发动机的保姆---空军5719厂,<STRONG>把AL31寿命由900小时提高到1500小时</STRONG><BR>新华网消息:近年来,空军五七一九工厂完成了63项科研成果,20多项获得国家、军队科技进步奖,自主创新的军用航空发动机再制造技术达到国际先进水平,发动机修理能力成倍增长。经他们维修的某新型军用航空发动机使用寿命大幅延长,1台发挥了1.6台的作用,取得了巨大的国防军事、经济和社会效益。 <BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 1台发动机发挥1.6台发动机的作用 <BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 五七一九工厂是隶属于空军装备部的装备保障性企业,担负着军用航空发动机修理保障的重任。这里的职工,就像是“不穿军装的军人”。 <BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 近年来,随着大批新型航空装备在部队列装,新型军用航空发动机关键、重要零部件供应,逐渐成为制约空军战斗力持续生成的突出问题。如不能及时有效解决,必然影响先进战机发挥作用。工厂自主创新了21项具有国际先进水平的三代飞机发动机关键部件再制造技术,突破了由少数西方国家对航空发动机再制造技术的垄断,使我军三代战机的发动机寿命从900小时延长到1500小时,相当于使1台发动机发挥了1.6台发动机的作用。 <BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 连续14年未发生因工厂责任造成的等级飞行事故 <BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 质量是航空发动机维修的生命线。为了确保维修质量"零缺陷、出精品"。从2005年开始,五七一九工厂设立了一座"质量警示墙。在那道89米长的质量警示墙上,空军历史上的每一起等级飞行事故和地面事故,工厂历史上发生的10多起较大质量问题,等等,赫然在目,时时刻刻提醒全体职工,将质量视为企业的生命。迄今为止,工厂已连续14年未发生因工厂责任造成的等级飞行事故。 <BR> 1.jpg <BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1837452>发动机寿命到了以后再干嘛?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1837458>正义兄请看看本页上面的图片<BR>-----------<BR>某试飞大队副大队长孙光:面向三军部队的试飞<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/29/content_13922256.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/29/content_13922256.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1837471>发表于 2010-7-29 02:13 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1837471><STRONG>回复 </STRONG><A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1837458&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>2626#</FONT></STRONG></A><STRONG> <I>天地浮云</I> </STRONG><BR>哈飞的可能新机快要曝光了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1838650>发表于 2010-7-29 11:27 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>发动机寿命到了以后再干嘛?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>diamoo 发表于 2010-7-29 02:09 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1837452&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.27030610069221583 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>连飞机一起封存,准备最后的单程飞行</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1839534>我有个疑问,希望专业人士能解答下<BR>英国的发动机技术好么?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1839697>发表于 2010-7-30 10:45 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>我有个疑问,希望专业人士能解答下<BR>英国的发动机技术好么?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>marx 发表于 2010-7-30 09:58 AM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1839534&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.7706090496419282 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>非常好,查劳斯莱斯的发动机。<BR>----<BR>欧洲称台风战机在模拟空战中轻松击败F-35[图]<BR>文章称,F-35不是台风战机的对手,台风能轻松击败F-35&nbsp;<BR> 1.jpg <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 据俄罗斯军工新闻网7月29日报道,英国、德国、意大利和西班牙合资的欧洲战斗机公司近日公开质疑美国F-35“闪电”II歼击机的战斗效能,声称电脑模拟“台风”和F-35空战的结果表明,在多数情况下美国隐形歼击机根本不是欧洲战机的对手。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 欧洲战斗机公司7月27日在其官方网站上宣布,电脑模拟空战结果表明,在85%的情况下,美国洛克希德-马丁公司研制的8架F-35战机的“攻击”都被欧洲公司研制的4架“台风”歼击机在1架远程雷达搜索和指挥机协助下成功“击溃”。欧洲战斗机公司特别指出,F-35的隐身性能并不强,如果调整好机载雷达观察角,可以轻易发现正在逼近的美国战机。在模拟空战中,美国F-35配备的武器是两枚JDAM精确制导炸弹和两枚空空导弹。欧洲战斗机公司得出的最后结论称,F-35适合杀伤敌方地面目标,但是不适宜空战,即不能用于夺取制空权。<BR>此前洛克希德-马丁公司曾经声称,随着高精、机动武器的装备和强力雷达的出现,近距离空中格斗的时代已经成为过去,F-35可以使用机载武器对自己上、下、前、后的敌方目标发起攻击,因此高机动性能对于战机来说已经不太重要,一旦F-35和第四代歼击机发生空战,损失比将会高达1:6。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 2010年7月20日意大利空军宣布准备放弃采购25架“台风”Tranche 3B歼击机,最后决定尚未做出。据悉,放弃采购欧洲战机之后,意大利可能少量采购美国研制的新型歼击机。欧洲战斗机公司声称,意大利放弃采购“台风”,转向进口F-35,将会导致国家航空安全水平大幅下降。F-35有陆基、舰载和短距离起降3种型号,最大速度可达到2100公里/小时,装备25毫米机关炮,机身下有6个导弹挂架,机身内有2个武器舱,计划2016年开始批量供应。欧洲“台风”最大速度可达到2500公里/小时,航程3500公里,装备27毫米机关炮,共有13个航空炸弹、空空导弹、空面导弹和激光目标指示系统挂架。(编译:书山)(来源:东方网)<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/30/content_13937942_1.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/30/content_13937942_1.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<P>清组图:广空航空兵某师电磁环境对抗演练&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年07月30日 08:59:40  来源:新华网&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/30/content_13937570.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-07/30/content_13937570.htm</FONT></A><BR><FONT color=#0000ff> 1.jpg <BR></FONT>广空航空兵某师电磁环境对抗演练,4架飞机在空中进行对抗演练。<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 新华网消息:7月29日,广空航空兵某师在南方某机场举行复杂电磁环境下的“红蓝”对抗演练。广空航空兵某师紧盯信息化作战制高点,强化复杂环境下对抗训练,着力锻造骁勇善战的“长空利剑”。(黄演庄 特约记者 沈玲摄影报道) <BR> 1.jpg <BR>广空航空兵某师电磁环境对抗演练,4架飞机在空中进行对抗演练<BR> 1.jpg <BR>广空航空兵某师一名飞行员在等待起飞命令。<BR> 2.jpg <BR>一名飞行员准备登机<BR> 3.jpg </P>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1839860><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1839697&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2632#</FONT></A> <I>天地浮云</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 其实我是想在英国大学报这个专业,也不知道这个专业是什么。。 就想问问<BR>谢谢大大解答~</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><A style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px" href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/space.php?uid=4345" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>数字化渔民</FONT></A> </DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1839886><I class=pstatus>本帖最后由 数字化渔民 于 2010-7-30 12:22 PM 编辑 </I><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>回复&nbsp;&nbsp;天地浮云&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 其实我是想在英国大学报这个专业,也不知道这个专业是什么。。 就想问问<BR>谢谢大 ...<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>marx 发表于 2010-7-30 12:05 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1839860&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.15364568476779777 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>啥发动机呀?<BR><BR>飞机的还是汽车的还是船舶的呀?<BR><BR>飞机的不用说了,罗罗<BR><BR>汽车的阿斯顿马丁也将就<BR><BR>船舶的嘛,还是罗罗,看看45的动力,口水呀~</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1839898><STRONG>回复 <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1839886&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>2636#</FONT></A> <I>数字化渔民</I>&nbsp;</STRONG><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 必然是喷气式发动机啊。。<BR>从小就喜欢军事,长大了就想搞这个,现在有机会了,肯定要试试!<BR><BR>我不小心按了报告。。&nbsp;&nbsp;楼上不好意思。。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<P>楼上好图!谁说军方不宣传?咱也来贴杀气图!<BR>=====================<BR> 1.jpg </P>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1841516>座舱看上去貌似还是仪表,大大来分析下</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1841521>呵呵,不容易啊<BR>咱们也出这种看起来有点质感的图了<BR>尤其是第一张和最后一张</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1841591>发表于 2010-7-30 10:29 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>弱弱的问下,那个11是一平三下喔?<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>diamoo 发表于 2010-7-30 10:29 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1841588&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.1134119002924655 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 就是单独帖出来的那张,放大了看看?........</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1841656>发表于 2010-7-30 10:45 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>就是单独帖出来的那张,放大了看看?........<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-30 10:31 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1841600&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.7809285807359637 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 看清楚了,不过内饰真的不错啊,豪华型座驾的风范啊</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1842408>一直不明白,我们的飞飞干嘛都带那劳保手套啊,没有专用的吗?还是那个东西确实足够好用?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1842464>为扭转中华风气,坚守舆论阵地!军备邀请刀大担任版主!<BR><BR>致敬!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<>[img][/img]记空军某歼10航空兵团机务大队[图]&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年08月02日 12:13:31  来源:新华军事&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> 1.jpg </P>
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<P><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 这是一支有着光荣传统的机务大队。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 前任队长夏北浩,1964年被空军党委授予“机械师尖兵”荣誉称号,他总结的“夏北浩检查法”在全空军推广。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 1978年,在全军开展“学雷锋、学硬骨头六连”活动过程中,空军党委把夏北浩同志命名为“雷锋式干部”,把该中队命名为 “硬骨头六连式连队”。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 2007年,该部在继承原检查法精髓的基础上,创造性地提出了“新夏北浩检查法”,再次在全空军推广应用,并被授予“夏北浩模范机务中队”荣誉称号。“对战斗胜利负责、对战友安全负责、对国家财产负责”,成为空军机务系统的行为准则。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 改装新机以来,他们坚持“弘扬三负责精神、争做夏北浩传人”的队训,积极探索,努力钻研,荣获了20余项技术革新奖,6项军队科技进步三等奖,连续三年被空军评为优质机务保障单位。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; “八一”前夕,本报记者来到这支英雄的机务大队,记录下官兵们继承和发扬光荣传统,抓住机遇乘势而上,瞄准一流打造重拳,不断把部队建设推上新台阶的工作瞬间。同时记录下服务于该部队的中航工业的师傅们,学习夏北浩精神,学习解放军优良传统和战斗作风,干好本职工作,在远离工厂的塞外机场,为国防建设做贡献的情景。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; (文章来源:中国航空报/谭超 李强 牟健为)<BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/02/content_13952739.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/02/content_13952739.htm</FONT></A></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1846954>发表于 2010-8-2 01:26 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1847229><STRONG><FONT color=blue>埃及可能放弃俄米格29转购中国枭龙战机</FONT></STRONG>(图)<BR> 1.jpg <BR><BR>东方网8月2日消息:乌克兰基辅周刊日前报道,近几年来,俄罗斯一直试图说服埃及购买40架米格-29喷气式战斗机。不过现在,北京政府或许会破坏这一合约——埃及军方目前正与中巴举行会谈,意在于埃及境内生产中国的枭龙战机。<BR><BR>  报道称,虽然枭龙战机在规格方面比不上米格,但枭龙比米格便宜3.5倍,其售价仅为1000万美元。显然,对埃及人来说,价格便是决定性因素。<BR><BR>  有趣的是,中国枭龙战机配备的是俄罗斯的RD-93发动机。原来,俄罗斯正与其直接竞争对手合作,共同生产喷气式战斗机,该款战机是俄罗斯国防工业的主要出口商品之一。<BR><BR>  报道指出,米格飞机公司及苏霍伊飞机公司主管已向俄罗斯联邦军事技术合作局及俄罗斯武器出口公司发表公开信,抗议俄罗斯签署向中国提供100台RD-93发动机的合约,该合约原定5月份签署。<BR><BR>  对于这封公开信,虽然俄罗斯武器出口公司作出了反应,但却选择支持中国。对此,该公司一名代表指出:“这种再出口是按照俄罗斯政府的法令执行的。而且,与成品制造商签署此类合同不需要什么手续。”<BR>........................................................<BR>到这个十年结束的时候,世界上多数军火进口商都将逐渐切换至下一代武器。而且,毫无疑问,中国和印度会争夺军火出口市场而努力。从理论上来讲,这就意味着中国将占据低端出口市场。无论如何,如果当前趋势继续保持下去,俄罗斯将很可能无法与它们竞争。<BR><A href="http://mil.huanqiu.com/world/2010-08/978114.html" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://mil.huanqiu.com/world/2010-08/978114.html</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1847580>靠 ,我是埃及我也选择XL,没有钱可以用石油换,还可以给自己拉条线自己国产化,何起而不为呀</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1847910>石油在埃及的国民经济中扮演着极其重要的角色,是最重要的外汇来源之一,其国民生产总值的10%和出口收入的40%来都自于石油及其制品,据埃及石油部的最新统计显示,埃及2002-2003财年(2002年7月—2003年6月)原油以及石化制品出口创汇31亿美元,同比增加了30%。到目前为止,埃及虽然还不是国际石油输出国组织成员,但其仍然是重要的石油生产和出口国。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 一、埃及区域石油的地质特征&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;埃及的石油产区按地理位置可分为四块,即苏伊士湾产区、西奈半岛产区、西部沙漠和东部沙漠产区。其中以苏伊士产区的原油产量最大,占埃及石油总产量的78%;西奈半岛占5%;沙漠地区共占17%。按地质构造可划分为:地中海断裂区、西部沙漠隆起和半地嵌区、北西奈褶皱区、苏伊士红海地嵌区和南部地台区5个构造单元。主要产油盆地有3个:&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;1、北埃及盆地&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 由几个次盆构成:&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; (1)北次盆:面积5万平方公里,1966年获得石油发现,目前共钻177口探井,已发现54个油田。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; (2)喀塔拉隆起:位于北埃及盆地中部,面积9250平方公里。目前发现3个小油田。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; (3)阿布古拉迪格次盆:面积1.6万平方公里,共钻井141口,发现2个油田。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 2、苏伊士盆地&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 是埃及最主要的含油气盆地,位于苏伊士湾西部的红海山和东部的西奈山之间,面积2.3万平方公里,已发现油田46个。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 3、尼罗河三角洲盆地&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 位于尼罗河三角洲,面积6万平方公里,为一含气和凝析油盆地。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 二、埃及的石油工业发展情况&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;1、埃及石油的开发情况&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;20世纪90年代以来,埃及进入了石油勘探开发的活跃期,平均每年钻井52口,平均成功率40%左右。目前在苏伊士盆地已有54个油田投入开发,西部沙漠有50个油田投入开发。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 截止到2003年底,埃及已探明石油储量为36亿桶,约 5亿吨;待发现储量31.18亿桶,整个石油开发潜力为67.18亿桶,约10亿吨。在日产量方面,据统计,1996年达到历史最高水平,为每天92.2万桶,2003年埃及石油日产量为75.2万桶,其中含原油62万桶,按照现在这个开发水平,埃及目前的石油潜力可供开发近30年。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;同时,据最新数据显示,2003财年埃及本国平均每天消费石油55.8万桶,平均每天净出口石油19.4万桶。(以上数字来源:埃及石油部)&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;2、埃及石油运输业发展情况&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;埃及主要的输油管道为苏伊士—地中海管道,简称sumed管道(苏伊士到亚历山大),长320公里,为国际输油管道,年输油量8000万吨。国内输油管线主要有两条:&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;其一、苏伊士到开罗,长350公里,年输油量800万吨;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;其二、西部沙漠到亚历山大,年输油量700万吨。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;lpg管线:从苏伊士盆地南部到苏伊士,长412公里。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;3、埃及的炼油产业发展情况&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;埃及石油工业的另一个组成部分是炼油产业,其炼油能力居非洲大陆首位。埃及炼油业主要集中在几个地区,包括:开罗地区、苏伊士地区、亚历山大地区、西奈地区和上埃及地区。目前共有9座石油提炼工厂,2003年日处理原油能力为72.625万桶。埃及石油部目前正计划兴建5座新的炼油和石化工厂。&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;石油下游产业的原料需求占埃及石油年消费量的10%,且化工、化肥、石化和聚合物生产企业也具有一定的规模,埃及也是重要的润滑剂生产和消费市场,润滑剂(油)消费量占整个非洲的六分之一。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>埃及可能放弃俄米格29转购中国枭龙战机(图)<BR>报道称,虽然枭龙战机在规格方面比不上米格,但枭龙比米格便宜3.5倍,其售价仅为1000万美元<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>tt902 发表于 2010-8-2 03:37 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1847229&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.07207286817951919 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>至少也要2000万嘛,有的是人来抬价,不要太便宜了</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1848034>上面转的新闻报价不靠谱,应该是单价1500万美圆,</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>至少也要2000万嘛,有的是人来抬价,不要太便宜了<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>comet12345678 发表于 2010-8-2 09:51 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1848009&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.21772195865186022 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>可能是 低配 的报价吧</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>上面转的新闻报价不靠谱,应该是单价1500万美圆,<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>天地浮云 发表于 2010-8-2 09:59 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1848034&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.5986426738622932 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>1500万是巴基斯坦版的巴基斯坦价格其他国家拿不到,范堡罗航展巴基斯坦漏出的是2000万<BR>如果其他国家想要1500万甚至是1000万的价格只能是低配置,高配置就会超过这个价</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1848133>发表于 2010-8-2 10:39 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1848133>恩,可能还要看具体配置,价格应该还有浮动。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1848487>发表于 2010-8-3 02:04 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1848487>丝带也快了,我们有钱!枭龙,可以省钱,又生钱,看好成飞。<BR>慢慢等,我们有信心。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1849350>发表于 2010-8-3 10:52 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1849350>飞豹”出巢[组图] <BR> 1.jpg <BR>机务官兵认真检查载弹情况。来源:中国军事图片中心 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 盛夏时节,风起云涌,正是“砺”兵大好时节。7月30日上午8时50分许,济空航空兵某师指挥所突然接到上级紧急命令:“某海域兄弟部队海军驱逐舰前进受阻,请你部火速派出续航能力强和火力强大的歼击轰炸机进行增援!”旋即,一阵急促的警报声在营区内响起,首长指挥系统开始高速运转;机关干部分随空、地、后勤人员一起登上各种保障车辆,直奔各自“战位”。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 机场上,一眼望去像火燎一般,让人酷热难耐,但官兵们全然不顾,大家都在紧张地进行出击前的各种准备。“出击!”9时30分,随着指挥员一声令下,多架油满箱、弹满舱的歼轰某型战机以雷霆万钧之势,分批次编队向“战区”奔袭而去…… (中国军事图片中心 陈名琳 严新宇摄影报道)<BR> 1.jpg <BR>协同准备。来源:中国军事图片中心<BR> 1.jpg <BR>战鹰出巢。来源:中国军事图片中心<BR> 1.jpg <BR>直扑“战区”。来源:中国军事图片中心</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1849422>发表于 2010-8-3 11:31 AM</EM> | </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>埃及有石油么?好像埃及是个比较穷的国家啊。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>chnchn 发表于 2010-8-2 08:32 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1847789&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.2921575542122226 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>埃及算是比较有钱的,,北非的经济一般都还成,,他又守着苏伊士运河,,即使没钱可以拿运河的运营权来买啊。。。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1849436>发表于 2010-8-3 11:38 AM</EM> | </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>国产11,一平三下。<BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#999999>布衣青裳 发表于 2010-7-30 10:16 PM</FONT> <A href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1841529&amp;ptid=55947" target=_blank><IMG id=img_0.3899054693207838 height=13 alt="" src="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/images/common/back.gif" width=13></A></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 国产的JJ,飞行员手里握着的手柄貌似和su-30不一样</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1860265>沉到第三页了,捞一把<BR>本网观点:从EADS失去耐心看欧洲军事航空业困境&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年08月06日 14:49:41  来源:新华网&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;新华军事评论员 郑文浩 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 在近几年的中外航展上,军用无人机的地位已能和有人战斗机平起平坐。如果没有现场有人战斗机的精彩展示飞行,各国不断推出的各种新型无人机的风头甚至会盖过有人驾驶的军用飞机。而且从近几次航展来看,无人战斗机更受到了各国军工企业的青睐,特别是欧洲的军工企业更是接连推出了多种无人战斗机。例如法国达索公司正领导开展"神经元"UCAV项目;英国BAE系统公司刚刚公布了"雷神"UCAV概念;EADS自己也推出了"梭鱼"UCAV验证机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 然而在范堡罗航展上,EADS公司一个"失去耐心"的举动,却显示出欧洲在军用无人机乃至未来整体军事航空产业上存在的隐忧。EADS公司之所以失去耐心,是因为他们在2009年巴黎航展上公布Talarion无人机项目,迟迟得不到法国、德国和英国的有力支持。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 不同于时兴的无人战斗机,Talarion无人机是一种类似于美国"全球鹰"的战场无人侦察机。Talarion无人机翼展28米,配装两台喷气式发动机,飞行高度可达15240米,续航时间可达20小时。与"全球鹰"35米的翼展、19800米的升限和36小时的续航时间来相比,Talarion无人机还差着一截子。当然欧洲并不像美国一样需要全球执行作战任务,因此Talarion无人机的战术性能已经足够用了。而更重要的一点就是,Talarion无人机是欧洲执行战场高空侦察和监视的关键手段。从近几次美军的局部战争来看,"全球鹰"这种高空、长航时的侦察/监视无人机,在战场上已经成为卫星侦察的重要补充。相比外形科幻但仍存在于概念设计阶段的无人战斗机来讲,高空无人侦察机的现实作用非常突出而且企业可以相对容易地提供工业化的成品。 <BR><BR> 1.jpg <BR><BR>英国国防部12日公开展示研发中的最新无人战斗机(UCAV)“雷神”。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 正如EADS防务与安全部门首席执行官Stefan Zoller在航展上强调的:"Talarion并不是验证机,而是正在研制中的纯工业产品。实事求是地说,如果没有足够的基础技术,无人战斗机只能是一纸空谈。" <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 欧洲大型的军工航空航天企业,也就算是英国的BAE系统公司和法、德等欧洲公司联合组成的EADS公司。对于航空航天企业来说,先进战斗机、大型战略或战术运输机以及各种战术精确制导武器,一直是构成公司盈利的主要来源。特别是前两项,可以说关联着企业的未来生存。但是我们现在看无论是BAE系统公司还是EADS公司,在这两方面表现得并不尽如人意。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; <STRONG>在美国F-22已经服役多年,俄罗斯已经试飞新一代T-50战斗机的背景下,欧洲主要大国(例如英法德)基本没有在新一代有人战斗机上有新的举动。仅仅是BAE系统公司由于英美关系的特殊性,获得了生产F-35机翼的合同</STRONG>。<FONT color=red>在几次欧洲大型航展上,无论是法国"阵风"战机还是联合研制的"台风"战机,虽然频频露面,但可以说是人老珠黄,基本拿不到别国订单</FONT>。欧洲各国军方的计划,显然是跨越耗资巨大的第四代(俄称第五代)有人战斗机的研制,而在2020-2030年左右直接装备无人战斗机。但从技术角度和安全上,即使美军都对无人战斗机存在着一定的踌躇。尽管"神经元"和"雷神"无人战斗机外形怪异,给人留下深刻的印象,但它们不是成品而是精美的模型,整个项目还仅仅存在于技术验证或者准备初始原型机飞行的阶段。即使两个项目能在2011年或者2012年实现首飞,也并不能预示前途一帆风顺,因为和现有的无人机作战模式不同,无人战斗机真正能够大放异彩,就需要更强的自主作战能力。但人工智能领域的技术局限和人类担心无人机失控的问题,又使各方在设计上往往采取人工干预的办法,就是保证操纵人员掌握有确认敌方目标和投放武器攻击等关键任务决策方面的权限,操纵人员可以在地面站内进行控制.或者在双座战斗机的后座上发出指令。这种作战模式,在激烈的空中作战中能否合适,并没有通过检验。因此,即使像美国这样无人机技术最先进的国家,也不愿意在无人战斗机上冒进。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 欧洲各国想利用无人战斗机主撑未来的"天空",但无人战斗机存在的上述固有问题,又使其不得不从属于有人战斗机之下。<FONT color=red>在欧洲没有新一代有人战斗机计划的前提下,10到20年后,即使欧洲的无人战斗机能够研制成功,必然也面临一个有人战斗机落后的尴尬局面。届时欧洲很有可能发生再进口战机的"囧"事。 </FONT><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 除了作战飞机,欧洲在大型运输和支援飞机的研制上也并不顺畅。EADS公司的A400M在吸引媒体眼球的同时,也由于性价比不突出而饱受军方诟病。这种介于大型喷气战略运输机和中型涡桨运输机之间的型号,能否开拓市场,一直是个疑问。本来EADS和美国诺格公司合作,抢到了美国KC-X下一代空中加油机的合同,取得了在美国军用飞机市场的重大突破,却由于波音公司的政治干预而竹篮打水一场空。这个项目的翻盘,赤裸裸地显示出了美国军工市场传统利益集团的霸道和蛮横。同时也显示了欧洲军事航空工业在美国军火巨头压力下的生存状态。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 军工企业在攫取巨额利润的同时,未来并不是一帆风顺。往往一两个关键项目的成败,就能决定一个巨型企业的兴亡。在现有美国独大的军工格局之下,欧洲以及其他国家军工企业该如何发展,是个值得思考的问题。尽管我们经常把"欧美"连在一起说,但欧洲军工企业是否应该在向"西"看的同时,开始向"东"看而开辟新的合作领域和市场?笔者认为,这个问题应该由欧洲富有远见的政治家和企业领袖来思索和回答。<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/06/content_13972677.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/06/content_13972677.htm</FONT></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<>中国海军现役的卡-28舰载直升机 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 美国环球战略网5日报道,中国已订购第三批俄罗斯卡-28/31海军直升飞机(9架)。中国的第一批订单始于1998年,当时订购了5架卡-28和3架卡-31直升飞机。在首批订单交付完成几年后,中国又相继订购9架卡-28和9架卡-31,已于去年开始运抵中国。&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 卡-28型直升机于1982年服役,装备在苏维埃(前苏联)海军部队。重12吨的卡-28是一款反潜艇直升机,而卡-31则装配了大型雷达(安装在直升机底部),可以充当预警雷达直升机。卡-28/31拥有205公里/小时的巡航速度,最高时速达到270公里/小时,两款机型的突击作战时间平均为3-4小时,各自都有4吨的有效载荷(装配武器和其他电子系统)。卡-28和三架Ka-31是配置精良的卡27的出口版,为俄罗斯海军所拥有。俄海军直升飞机在完美度、可靠性和名气等方面不如西方直升机,但卡-27型直升机极低,同样也能完成任务。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 从上世纪90年代起,中国海军开始采购各种先进飞机、潜艇和水面舰艇,以及先进的现代化武器、传感器和战斗系统。现在,海军航空兵的任务已经涵盖海上巡逻、反潜战(ASW)、海上攻击、后勤支持甚至空中预警等各种内容。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 中国海军目前配备有三款直升机:Z-9C、Z-8及俄制卡-28 Helix直升机。Z-9C直升机也可装备水面搜索雷达,探测超出舰载雷达覆盖范围的水面战舰,能够利用ET-52雷达向水面战舰发起攻击。Z-9C直升机是中国在法国授权下生产的AS-365N2“海豚”复制机型,尽管早期型号是由进口零件组装而成,但到上世纪90年代的时候,Z-9C直升机已有70%以上零部件由中国生产。目前,航空兵拥有10架Z-9C直升机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 尽管Z-9C直升机仍然是航空兵的主要直升机机型,但俄制卡-28 Helix直升机也得到广泛应用,是海军索马里反海盗部署中的主要舰载直升机机型。中国是在向俄罗斯采购“现代”级驱逐舰时获得的“Helix”直升机。虽然该款直升机速度不及Z-9C,但其荷载量却是后者的两倍。航空兵现有的8架卡-28直升机,配备在“现代”及“旅洋”级驱逐舰上,执行反潜战及搜救任务。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; Z-8直升机是中国在法国许可下生产的SA-321Frelon直升机复制机型。Z-8是一种中型运输直升机,主要负责执行运兵、反潜战、扫雷及布雷等任务。与KA-28及Z-9C相比,Z-8直升机体型明显较大,因此也提供了较大的货运能力,但同样也限制了这款直升机的战斗力。(编译:春风) <BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/10/content_13992404.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/10/content_13992404.htm</FONT></A><BR>========<BR>俄称中国研制成直19攻击直升机 采用串联式座舱&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>2010年08月10日 09:30:24  来源:东方网&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;据俄罗斯军事工业综合体网站8月9日报道,中国航空工业集团公司已于日前展出了其最新研制的攻击直升机——直-19的首架试验用机。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 这种新型攻击直升机以中国陆军航空兵现役的直-9W为基础研制,主要用于打击坦克等重型目标。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 从目前公布的照片上看,直-19的机体较窄,采用了串联式座舱部件。其保留了直-9WA直升机的尾部和主旋翼设计方案。除此之外,为了降低设计风险,中航工业集团可能还为直-19安装了与直-9WA相同的动力装置。有媒体报道称,直-19攻击直升机已于今年5月份完成了首飞。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 有分析人士指出,直-10中型攻击直升机的研制工作目前已经接近尾声,而新进推出的直-19很可能将与前者形成高低搭配,用于弥补前者数量上的不足。此外,由于在动力装置的整合问题上遇到困难,导致直-10项目的进度受到延误,而这可能也是导致中国人研制的直-19的原因之一。直-10直升机于2003年4月29日完成首飞,其排气口采用了有利于降低红外信号的设计。最初,直-10装备的是加拿大生产的PT6C-76C发动机,但其量产型号可能会装备与直-9相同的发动机。有消息称,首批直-10A目前已开始装备中国陆军航空兵。 <BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; 作为直-19研制基础的直-9W是中国生产的第一种攻击直升机,目前是中国陆军航空兵部队的主力装备。直-9W装备有威力强大的“红箭-8A”反坦克导弹、57/90毫米火箭弹、23毫米机关炮以及用于打击空中目标的TY-90空对空导弹等。(来源:东方网 编译:北斗<BR><BR><A href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/10/content_13992418.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-08/10/content_13992418.htm</FONT></A></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1867691>发表于 2010-8-10 11:31 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1867691>唉呀呵呵,研发四代很烧钱的</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><A style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px" href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/space.php?uid=13714" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>1122</FONT></A> </DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><STRONG><A id=postnum1867704 title=复制本帖链接 href="javascript:;"><FONT color=#800080><EM>2661</EM><SUP>#</SUP></FONT></A> </STRONG>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1867704>发表于 2010-8-10 11:36 AM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1867704>一血 <BR>手套是三防的,防压防割防滑手套,价钱好的上千人民币</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><A style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px" href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/space.php?uid=124782" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>dcn</FONT></A> </DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1870580>发表于 2010-8-11 03:52 PM</EM> |&nbsp; </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1870580>花了3天时间,终于浏览一遍,受益良多啊。几年前就在看刀口、perry家族等的帖子,很不错。近来发现新浪实在没法看了,标题党、YY的太多。这里很不错,不少经典高楼。先顶顶本楼,一直顶到4代成军。</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV class=postinfo><A style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px" href="http://www.xhclub.net/forum/space.php?uid=50354" target=_blank><FONT color=#0000ff>laudaturetalget</FONT></A> </DIV>
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<DIV class=authorinfo>&nbsp;<EM id=authorposton1870871>发表于 2010-8-11 05:54 PM</EM> | </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_1870871>各位大大,问个问题,轻型制空机为什么要搞双座</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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